Xdashdriver

As TOGALOCK said, there's videos and guides and a DART system where questions will be answered in a matter of minutes, usually. If it can't be figured out those ways then I doubt anything I say here will make any sense, or any difference.

TOGALOCK

??? I think you misunderstood my post. I was calling Reserve a lazy dumb ***. People who don’t put in the effort to learn PBS will hate it. Given the resources and tools that were given to us in the transition, other than personal bidding strategy, there shouldn’t be any major fear of PBS going in. I’m on COLA, but know I will like it when I come back in April. I’ve used both line bidding and PBS over three airlines in my career. While our line bidding was far superior to the line bidding I’ve previously used, I still prefer PBS.

fcoolaiddrinker

Sorry about that. It’s been a barrage of contract questions all day that made it clear there’s a ton of pilots that still have made little to no effort to learn pbs. I guess we can add res to that list. My apologies. It’s good news for those who have.

Aero1900

Again, ReserveCA was asking the question to make a point. He plays dumb to illustrate his point.

Two observations I wanted to make though.

1) The Dart system is awesome. I submitted a question and got a call so fast I couldn't believe it. And the guy was a great resource and was able to answer my question. I was impressed.

2) There's been far far less b*tching about PBS than I expected. Obviously a lot of people are more satisfied than they feared. It's certainly complicated, has a steep learning curve and there's a concession or two in there, but I think it's been better than expected.

Senior folks seem pretty happy and junior guys already had crappy schedules anyhow...

fcoolaiddrinker

Thanks for the input. Right now the biggest issue is the lack of flying and the randomness of it. Las is a mess with no sequences on certain days.

Brickhut

Don't explain a thing to that dingbat, Reserve CA. If he was too lazy to watch the videos, read the emails, or join a webinar, F'em. Let him rot flying red-eyes on the weekends.

Trowserchilli

Wrong.
Previously a junior person could commonly not work any of his awarded schedule through our multiple processes of schedule manipulation.

Those days are gone. The one thing this airline offered previously was great scheduling flexibility. That ship has sailed.

Xdashdriver

The lack of ability to manipulate schedules is more so due to the current environment than PBS. With a 5% open time pot there will be ample opportunity to flex the schedule. Granted, the trips in there won’t be as desirable due to lack of vacation and training conflicts and since the senior guys will be getting more of what they want through the bidding process they won’t need to drop as much. Some of the “flexibility” has shifted from multiple opportunities to modify your awarded schedule to getting more of what you want initially. Since a lot of the best trips were awarded in MOT though, the junior guys didn’t get as much of those trips anyway (except those who knew how to play the super-seniority game). Once the pilot group is more familiar with how PBS works and to get the most desirable schedule they can hold, and the flying picks back up, I think we will see a modest improvement.

ReserveCA

FYI.
i watched the videos numerous times....the webinar was nothing but a repeat of the PowerPoint...my point was our “negotiating committee” got played. We gave up all the bennies of conflicts that greatly benefited the company and got crap in return.....what about the cancelled vac? Got nothing.... etc etc...... Voters were “blinded” by industry standard BOTTOM pay and disregarded everything else....looking forward to bidding F/O what the finances are in order to be in the top 1-5%

Xdashdriver

You're so full of crap its unbelievable. The webinars had AMPLE opportunity for anyone present to ask questions, have their mock bids reviewed, get some personal attention and get it figured out. Since then, trainers have literally spent tens of hours of their own personal time with their fellow pilots (including bellyachers like you) trying to help get everyone up to speed as much as possible.

As for the vacation conflicts, if the company follows through with what they are saying they will (as of 3 weeks ago), our vacation "conflicts" (if we still had them) would be worthless now and in the future. More "V" shaped flying, more flying through base, more out-and-back, therefore very little opportunity to drop complete 4 day trips. To capture a PBS credit of 5 hours per vacation day is industry leading and retained a good chunk of the vacation credit we had. Yes, it's less than what we were getting but there was no way to stop the company from doing what they're doing today and planning on continuing to do with the flying so it would have disappeared in a puff of smoke anyway. I had vacation in the last line-bidding month and there was only 1 line that I was able to drop over 40 hours from. Everything else was in the mid-30s and lower. I figured it was just for the pandemic and then learned differently.