What would you guess to be the realistic time to: 1. hold weekends off lines as an FO, 2. summer vacation as an FO, 3. upgrade to Captain, in MCO or TPA as a new hire coming in today?

 

Everything you are asking is subject to change on a variety of factors. It depends on base growth, new based offered, etc.

Within 10 months I was able to hold a line in MCO. I was able to hold weekends off on a reserve schedule. Summertime vacations came year one, not on the holidays.

The trend with upgrade is new bases are junior upgrade bases. Our most junior captains are thus Miami and Tampa based. However, in the roughly 3-4 years it’ll take you to upgrade you may not have the seniority to hold those bases as the growth at those bases may stop. Most 5 year captains can hold MCO IIRC.

Your results may vary, but barring us opening an EWR or CVG base, you will have your best shot at getting quick QOL and upgrade in the southeast.

 

Your results may vary, but barring us opening an EWR or CVG base, you will have your best shot at getting quick QOL and upgrade in the southeast.[/QUOTE]

Thanks,

So... What do you think is the growth plan?

Grow within existing bases or new bases?

Has management given any indication of what they intend to do?

 

Did somebody say CVG!!??
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Thanks,

So... What do you think is the growth plan?

Grow within existing bases or new bases?

Has management given any indication of what they intend to do?[/QUOTE]

Indications, yes but one thing I've learned from my years here is the "indications" may or may not turn into reality. A few years ago it was "two bases in each time zone" and "no more new destinations, just going to fill in the network" neither of which has held up. Now it's more "want to do more out-and-back flying with more bases" and "we've done well serving smaller cities 2-3 times a week" They hold their detailed dance card pretty close to their chest since communicating the plan to the front line workers is pretty much the same as making a public announcement. That has bit them once or twice (eg AUS) so they're a little more cautious now.

You can expect TPA, MIA and ATL to be the focus of the growth for the next 6-9 months as far as where pilots are going to be based. BB and the Spirit CEO were talking about more flying for MCO in the future last week when they were in town for some industry conference. Clearly we're growing the near-international market in Central America and the Caribbean, so there will likely be some more of that. Beyond that is anyone's best guess.

 

Thanks,

So... What do you think is the growth plan?

Grow within existing bases or new bases?

Has management given any indication of what they intend to do?[/QUOTE]

They've repeatedly said that they want a lot of small bases. With ATL opening, TPA, MCO, and MIA now bases, plus across the system were running about 75% 1 and 2 day trips, were shaping up to be just like Allegiant. If you don't want to be in that kinda business model, I suggest you apply elsewhere.

 

They've repeatedly said that they want a lot of small bases. With ATL opening, TPA, MCO, and MIA now bases, plus across the system were running about 75% 1 and 2 day trips, were shaping up to be just like Allegiant. If you don't want to be in that kinda business model, I suggest you apply elsewhere.[/QUOTE]

I know guys are upset about not having as many 4 days as usual but we are not setting ourselves up like allegiant. We won’t go to only day trips.