Stayontarget

So what’s it going to be? Take the money and put it into a treasury note paying good interest or say no thanks I intend to leave in 1000 days or less?

ToddChavez

1 year CD rates are 4%, take the 35k and pocket the interest after a year, then quit.

El Gipple

That is "THE" question that any prospective applicant or new-hire should be asking.

The Company publicly portrays a situation where Frontier is attracting all of the pilots (and more) that it needs. This is technically true, but retention is the issue. Granted, unless the name of the Company is United, Delta, or Fed Ex, most airlines are experiencing problems with attrition.

But here at Frontier:

• After years of resistance, why has Frontier recently decided it was in their best interest to provide hotel rooms for new-hires.
• Frontier followed that decision with one raising 1st year pay to $75.00/hr then a few months later to $90/hr or whatever it is now.
• Now a cash bonus to new-hires in an effort to keep them on property for 3 years.

So.......

• Why is it that 244 F/O's have resigned in the last 2 years? Their average longevity? 2.4 years. For perspective, in that same period of time Frontier has hired 657 pilots yet the seniority list has grown by just 347 pilots (26 retirements and a few terminations/deaths).
• And why have 17 CAPT's resigned in the last 7 months? Their average longevity? 8.1 years! - One of these was a 51 year old CAPT with 9 years of longevity who also happened to be a member of the negotiating committee that negotiated the 2019 CBA
• Why is there suddenly a trend of Frontier pilots retiring early?

Interesting that a number (not insignificant) of those who have resigned this year point to the surprise closure of the ORD domicile as the reason they chose to move on? Also high on the list is concern over the senseless sick call section 19's earlier in the year.

It also seems kind of odd that 80% of the initial Purdue University new-hire class no longer work at Frontier? One of them was a union rep.
https://polytechnic.purdue.edu/newsr...ssional-flight

Purdue provided some quality pilots for Frontier. Unfortunately, a few years behind the curtain and a pilot friendly hiring environment has sent them packing.

Anyone know the status of the Australian visa program Frontier wanted to use to hire pilots that essentially would tie them to employment at Frontier?

It is obvious that Frontier is no longer considered a legit long term career option for many pilots. Something is broken!

PositiveRate20

Had one of the Australian guys in my class. He’s at United.

Aero1900

El Gipple,

You ask a lot of questions. I think the answer to all of them is; we are in a once in a career hiring environment.

The industry has never had such massive amounts of retirement and hiring.

brocklee9000

No clue. Finishing up a turn, just got the email with multiple PDF attachments. One says a $35K bonus. Another is titled Promissory Note. I’ll have to read when I get home tonight.

But for me, I have no intent of getting a type and bailing. Hoping to stick around. Not sure why they drew a line in the sand with our class. I was coming here in 2 weeks regardless. Sucks you guys already here don’t get a bonus

Yabadaba

No truth to this from union rep that bought lunch at RGS.

shrsailplanes

What is the tax hit going to be on $35K? You’re already in the hole as soon as you take the money due to taxes. It’s not like you can let it sit somewhere and not have to pay taxes on it. Right?

planejoe

https://www.paycheckcity.com/calculator/flatbonus

Roughly about 10k

shrsailplanes

I’m gonna pass on the money. We only have one day to consider everything. I’m not comfortable with that. Hopefully it’s not a ding against me.