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ColdWhiskey 02-24-2023 02:27 PM

Why do we need so many bases? I would prefer to see us grow our existing bases, starting with Denver. Let’s face it, we still have a huge percentage of our work force that are forced to commute away from Denver.

Beehan 02-24-2023 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey (Post 3597524)
Why do we need so many bases? I would prefer to see us grow our existing bases, starting with Denver. Let’s face it, we still have a huge percentage of our work force that are forced to commute away from Denver.

It was explained to our class last year as a cost saving measure, if something breaks or a crew times out etc then it's easier to fix the plane or replace the crew if it happens at a base rather than an out station. I'm with you though, it would be nice to just build up the bases we have.

303flyboy 02-24-2023 08:08 PM

The company is loyal to where the business is. Not to Denver just because it’s Denver. Either adapt and act accordingly or go to United. Not trying to be mean here but the company won’t grow Denver so people don’t have to commute. I was DEN based for years and I hear you and feel you I do. But this is not a Denver company anymore.

Signed a Denver guy.

Mooneyguy 02-25-2023 06:07 AM


Originally Posted by 303flyboy (Post 3597617)
The company is loyal to where the business is. Not to Denver just because it’s Denver. Either adapt and act accordingly or go to United. Not trying to be mean here but the company won’t grow Denver so people don’t have to commute. I was DEN based for years and I hear you and feel you I do. But this is not a Denver company anymore.

Signed a Denver guy.

correct. Den is a high cost airport. We don’t do high cost airports. Den is not going to grow, even with Barry’s outdoor gates that will cut turn times “in half”

TurboFanMan 02-25-2023 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by Mooneyguy (Post 3597725)
correct. Den is a high cost airport. We don’t do high cost airports. Den is not going to grow, even with Barry’s outdoor gates that will cut turn times “in half”

Fuel cost has went up significantly in Denver according to the release. I’ve been noticing tankering a lot more fuel into Denver as a result.

ps
I don’t even know if those fuel numbers we see are even real? 😂

JoeFever1 02-25-2023 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey (Post 3597524)
Why do we need so many bases? I would prefer to see us grow our existing bases, starting with Denver. Let’s face it, we still have a huge percentage of our work force that are forced to commute away from Denver.

Denver is not the one that needs to grow. It’s MIA TPA ATL PHX. All the bases that are under a 100 crews.

hercretired 02-25-2023 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by ColdWhiskey (Post 3597524)
Why do we need so many bases? I would prefer to see us grow our existing bases, starting with Denver. Let’s face it, we still have a huge percentage of our work force that are forced to commute away from Denver.

The company is reducing or outright eliminating company hotel expenses.

Mustang0127 02-25-2023 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by nochopforboxes (Post 3595112)
Everyone I fly with now has been saying the same thing... they hear CVG/CLE being thrown around as the next base, leaning towards CVG... just heard from a recent upgrade a director of something pretty much confirmed thats what they were looking at. An FA told me they heard from good authority that CVG will be announced in 2-3 months, but not sure how much I trust that source.

Seems like the general consensus here is CVG because the cost of winter weather in CLE would be rather expensive, but we don't seem to have as much CVG flying.. although it flip flops seasonally?

Anyone know what the wives and other sources are saying?



Couple months ago wifes said CVG. They cant be wrong, right?! They predicted PHX and DFW. I have been hearing CVG much heavier than CLE. Personally I think were going to hear an announcement in April or May since it would go along with the frequency of base openings/announcements of about 2/year since late 2021 announcement of ATL opening. At the moment we do more flying out of CLE like you said but the flying is increasing for CVG in the coming months. CVG probably an easier commute for crews since the high volume of cargo flights. CVG also seems to be a much more economically thriving city and more potential for growth according to several news articles.

ColdWhiskey 02-25-2023 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3597806)
The company is reducing or outright eliminating company hotel expenses.

You are absolutely correct. The company is slowly transferring their hotel expenses to the employee. This needs to be addressed in the upcoming contract.

TurboFanMan 02-25-2023 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Mustang0127 (Post 3597828)
Couple months ago wifes said CVG. They cant be wrong, right?! They predicted PHX and DFW. I have been hearing CVG much heavier than CLE. Personally I think were going to hear an announcement in April or May since it would go along with the frequency of base openings/announcements of about 2/year since late 2021 announcement of ATL opening. At the moment we do more flying out of CLE like you said but the flying is increasing for CVG in the coming months. CVG probably an easier commute for crews since the high volume of cargo flights. CVG also seems to be a much more economically thriving city and more potential for growth according to several news articles.

I too believe CVG is the sleeper.


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