Originally Posted by CantStayAway

Real world example…

Pairing:
Day 1
MCO-ATL 20+ hour layover in ATL
Day 2
ATL-LGA
LGA-MCO Release at 12:00pm in MCO

A plane in MIA that is supposed to operate MIA-ATL-SFO is hours delayed due to mx. Scheduling attempts a reassignment of the crew that lands in ATL from MCO.

Attempted reassignment…
Day 1
MCO-ATL
ATL-SFO layover SFO
Day 2
DH SFO-MCO release at 15:15 in MCO

I don’t believe this exact scenario would be legal today as there is a domicile in ATL, however this was before the ATL domicile. The above scenario happened to me. I was never notified of the change and I went home that day. Under the language of the contract that will be going into effect with the app, this would be a legal reassignment (per ALPA) because of the “reasons beyond the control of the company.”

In the above example the reassignment was outside of the footprint of the original pairing. That should not be allowed in my opinion. I understand that my plane can break down in an outstation and that’s not what I’m talking about. A reassignment to different flying should never fall outside of the footprint of the original pairing. We have that language and then negate it with, “for reasons beyond the control of the company.”

Originally Posted by WaterRooster

Its funny to see everyone thinking that F9 will touch new Legacy pay rates. Look at the last negotiation…Frontier was said not NOT be comparable to Legacy’s. I don’t think that has changed but you can plan to be compared to Allegiant and Sunny in any negotiation. All this talk is the same it was last time and see how that turned out? Just temper your expectations now because the company is perfectly fine underpaying and having high turnover in the 3-5 year range.

Originally Posted by Stayontarget;[url=tel:3597833

3597833[/url]]Legacy WB rates? No probably not. NB rates? Why not? Just so we are clear in the last year the company decided to give new hires a 25% raise and comp hotels during training. Then another 17% raise, then a 35k bonus, then another 10% raise and upped the bonus to 50k. So now not only is our first year rate “touching” legacy pay rates, it’s obliterating them. Aim higher.

Originally Posted by WaterRooster

Im not saying there will be no high percentage raises that will fall in line with what DL got.15-18% sure….Probably 13-15%. $ for $ what DL got in the NB Fleet? Not a chance. This company will trip over $20 to pick up $1 so my expectations are not high. I do think to get a higher $ you will be giving up the override over 82

Originally Posted by 303flyboy

I agree WaterRooster,

DL321 isn’t a realistic ask. It should be better. We move more people on the same equipment. How the company makes money is their problem. My job is to get the plane from A to B often with less resources and operational backup my peers at DL enjoy.

Originally Posted by 303flyboy

I agree WaterRooster,

DL321 isn’t a realistic ask. It should be better. We move more people on the same equipment.

How the company makes money is their problem. My job is to get the plane from A to B often with less resources and operational backup my peers at DL enjoy.

Originally Posted by hercretired

didn't the union come out and say "the 1,000 [or whatever #] grievances need to be resolved before a contract is discussed"

They resolve??? 10 grievances a year ????

if they stick to that, the new contract will happen in the year 2123 (100 years)