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spooldup 08-19-2023 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by BiffleBalls (Post 3684329)
Watching them move the goal posts for the contest that nobody was going to win, and then have to move them a couple more times has been entertaining. What are they giving out? Miles? The only miles any body wants is the distance they can get from the next daily disaster a fabulous Frontier Airlines.... A Tic Tok sensation! So I hear...

True.

but to be fair, I have some friends with access to Delta and United performance, theirs are also in the gutter, just not as bad as ours MOST of the time.

hercretired 08-19-2023 10:14 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3685060)
True.

but to be fair, I have some friends with access to Delta and United performance, theirs are also in the gutter, just not as bad as ours MOST of the time.

what performance is "in the gutter" over at DAL and UAL ?

https://ir.delta.com/news/news-detai...s/default.aspx

most recent quarter:


Delivered highest quarterly revenue and profitability in Delta's history
...in HISTORY

spooldup 08-19-2023 10:33 AM


Originally Posted by hercretired (Post 3685084)
what performance is "in the gutter" over at DAL and UAL ?

https://ir.delta.com/news/news-detai...s/default.aspx

most recent quarter:



...in HISTORY

Just because they had record profits, doesn't mean their on time/cancellations/etc were perfect... Ours are way worse, but we can't act like the legacies are just immune to any issues we also deal with (ours just hurt more because of our poor ops in the first place)

hercretired 08-19-2023 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3685091)
Just because they had record profits, doesn't mean their on time/cancellations/etc were perfect... Ours are way worse, but we can't act like the legacies are just immune to any issues we also deal with (ours just hurt more because of our poor ops in the first place)

At the end of the day, profits pays the light bill. Not the other way around. Flying a half-full airplane with "on time arrival" and "happy gate agents with a smile" is warm and fuzzy but means nothing if there is no profit.

PilotBases 08-19-2023 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3685060)
True.

but to be fair, I have some friends with access to Delta and United performance, theirs are also in the gutter, just not as bad as ours MOST of the time.

That’s not even close to true
https://www.transportation.gov/sites...023%20ATCR.pdf

spooldup 08-19-2023 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by PilotBases (Post 3685115)

Maybe I suck at looking at numbers, but we are not very far behind a lot of carriers in many categories.

Yabadaba 08-19-2023 03:47 PM

Those numbers are from April.

dracir1 08-20-2023 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3685122)
Maybe I suck at looking at numbers, but we are not very far behind a lot of carriers in many categories.

According to the report, our on time arrival #s are below average. We are, at best, 7th out of 10. When you say not far behind...

TooMuchTime 08-22-2023 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by UpwardInflow (Post 3679702)
What say the masses?

Biffle is selling his shares to make us more affordable for United to buy us. 100% certain.

ERAUAV8R 08-22-2023 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by TooMuchTime (Post 3686374)
Biffle is selling his shares to make us more affordable for United to buy us. 100% certain.

ER is buying us. They’ll use frontier to secure jobs for all graduates and then say they have 100% job placement. Thus causing enrollment to skyrocket


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