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Originally Posted by captnate702
(Post 3857637)
I’m a G4 guy that was answering a question from one of you guys. I’m talking about G4 management and the teamsters fighting like mommy and daddy. Both are dysfunctional. We have had four separate negotiating committees in 2024 alone. We are in emergency trusteeship because our former MEC stole close to a $1m in Union dues.
I’ve spoken with dozen of line pilots and the consensus is that management and union are fighting and getting in petty arguments instead of focusing on a deal. |
Originally Posted by BobSacamano
(Post 3857503)
Nah, in my experience that’s the consensus outside of a handful of folks who you can pretty well typecast.
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Originally Posted by Cameronhoward
(Post 3857481)
I wouldn't say that's the concensus. Most people I fly with see it as the union negotiating in good faith and the company isn't. I wouldn't call that "mommy and daddy" arguing.
move the process along, dot the I's and cross the T's to get released.... |
Originally Posted by ReserveCA
(Post 3859610)
the company has no desire to make ANY changes so..........
move the process along, dot the I's and cross the T's to get released.... |
Originally Posted by Aero1900
(Post 3859825)
Exactly. We just need to move step by step thru the RLA process to getting released. Unfortunately there won't be natural supply and demand pressure on the company this time.
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Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 3860573)
That and it looks like the President elect will get to choose his head for NLRB. I’m not so sure they’ll be as friendly to labor as the Biden appointee.
This is the part nobody was posting. |
Originally Posted by putzin
(Post 3860573)
That and it looks like the President elect will get to choose his head for NLRB. I’m not so sure they’ll be as friendly to labor as the Biden appointee.
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Originally Posted by Nacho Libre
(Post 3860585)
This is the part nobody was posting.
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With the financials public, who really thinks F9 can afford a new contract? We all want a new contract but bottom line, the company CANNOT afford it. I've seen guys/gals posting on FB about the decrease in block hours year over year, quarter over quarter.. Revenue shrinking quarter over quarter. Planes sitting on the ramp. Do they not get it? They're making changes to the "New Frontier" because they're not making any money and they need to try something different. If we get a contract anytime soon, buckle up because we'll be right where NK is.
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Originally Posted by BaseballFlyer7
(Post 3860788)
With the financials public, who really thinks F9 can afford a new contract? We all want a new contract but bottom line, the company CANNOT afford it. I've seen guys/gals posting on FB about the decrease in block hours year over year, quarter over quarter.. Revenue shrinking quarter over quarter. Planes sitting on the ramp. Do they not get it? They're making changes to the "New Frontier" because they're not making any money and they need to try something different. If we get a contract anytime soon, buckle up because we'll be right where NK is.
smartest guy in the room here to do the companies negotiating for them. lol. If you feel that way vote no on the first contract offer we get. lol. The company as it has been operating has a PR and Image issue. We deserve more than legacies based on number of pax on a plane on any given day. We are frontier’s cost saving advantage. If you’re really fine making way less than your peers across the industry go work for G4. The 90% of Frontier pilot group will continue to demand parity. |
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