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DontStahl320 08-17-2023 12:23 PM

How long for a contract?
 
It’s seems like senior captains in the 8-10 year range and FOs in the 1-2 year range are jumping ship faster than we could recruit them. Just wondering is there light at the end of the tunnel here or are we in full blown Stockholm? No airline got a contract under 3 years with the exception of UPS and their TA extension. Will we be the exception?

PFranz 08-17-2023 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by DontStahl320 (Post 3684132)
It’s seems like senior captains in the 8-10 year range and FOs in the 1-2 year range are jumping ship faster than we could recruit them. Just wondering is there light at the end of the tunnel here or are we in full blown Stockholm? No airline got a contract under 3 years with the exception of UPS and their TA extension. Will we be the exception?

With this management group and Indigo, I think we both know the answer. Hope for the best, expect the worse. Like many have said, if you’re on the fence whether or not to join a legacy, waiting to see what our contract will look like, don’t wait, go.

hercretired 08-17-2023 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by DontStahl320 (Post 3684132)
It’s seems like senior captains in the 8-10 year range and FOs in the 1-2 year range are jumping ship faster than we could recruit them. Just wondering is there light at the end of the tunnel here or are we in full blown Stockholm? No airline got a contract under 3 years with the exception of UPS and their TA extension. Will we be the exception?

Notable is UPS union is not ALPA, not APA.

spooldup 08-17-2023 01:52 PM

Most union guys I talk to are pretty intent on thinking it will be end of winter/early spring.

The company came to the table with stuff in hand. They are losing a lot of employees. Lots of money. Lots of investors starting to question them hard. Metrics are in the toilet.

FlyingR6 08-17-2023 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3684188)
Most union guys I talk to are pretty intent on thinking it will be end of winter/early spring.

The company came to the table with stuff in hand. They are losing a lot of employees. Lots of money. Lots of investors starting to question them hard. Metrics are in the toilet.

There is no way we get one that fast. Just no feasible way with these people.

Aero1900 08-17-2023 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by FlyingR6 (Post 3684206)
There is no way we get one that fast. Just no feasible way with these people.

Unfortunately I agree. Just add two years to the estimates

madmax757 08-17-2023 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3684226)
Unfortunately I agree. Just add two years to the estimates

I want to see the pictures of the new strike bus. There was a teaser about a month ago but haven’t seen anything since. Unless it’s in my mailbox with my lanyard :)

fivebyfive 08-17-2023 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by madmax757 (Post 3684228)
I want to see the pictures of the new strike bus. There was a teaser about a month ago but haven’t seen anything since. Unless it’s in my mailbox with my lanyard :)

I heard the bus is going to have Wi-Fi so they can still get lightning fast flica alerts for premium.

Aero6900 08-17-2023 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 3684188)
Most union guys I talk to are pretty intent on thinking it will be end of winter/early spring.

The company came to the table with stuff in hand. They are losing a lot of employees. Lots of money. Lots of investors starting to question them hard. Metrics are in the toilet.

What stuff in hand? Concessions?

BiffleBalls 08-17-2023 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by fivebyfive (Post 3684233)
I heard the bus is going to have Wi-Fi so they can still get lightning fast flica alerts for premium.

That.Is.Classic....


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