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madmax757 08-17-2023 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by fivebyfive (Post 3684233)
I heard the bus is going to have Wi-Fi so they can still get lightning fast flica alerts for premium.

I spit out my triple shot cappuccino !

ReserveCA 08-17-2023 06:46 PM

5+ minimum

Stayontarget 08-18-2023 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3684345)
5+ minimum

129 aircraft out of 136 planned this year. 2037 pilots on Flica. Depending on how many pilots one thinks we need per airplane we are starting to get very close to understaffed. Then what? Then how long will this contract take?

togaflaps 08-18-2023 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3684653)
129 aircraft out of 136 planned this year. 2037 pilots on Flica. Depending on how many pilots one thinks we need per airplane we are starting to get very close to understaffed. Then what? Then how long will this contract take?

How many are going to be down with engine issues or how many are going to be delayed? Last I heard yall are overstaffed from my f9 friends. I'm asking as I have a family member who just got hired at F9 and want to see what you all think. As for a contract I'd be surprised if it comes in less than 2 years. That would be one of the fastest full contracts negotiated, ever. I used to fly for an indigo company and I think I'm safe in saying they don't negotiate anything quickly.

hercretired 08-18-2023 11:59 AM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3684653)
129 aircraft out of 136 planned this year. 2037 pilots on Flica. Depending on how many pilots one thinks we need per airplane we are starting to get very close to understaffed. Then what? Then how long will this contract take?

believe I saw some where that Frontier does not use "Pilots per plane" as staffing model BUT the math up until now worked out to around 15 per plane.

UpwardInflow 08-18-2023 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3684653)
129 aircraft out of 136 planned this year. 2037 pilots on Flica. Depending on how many pilots one thinks we need per airplane we are starting to get very close to understaffed. Then what? Then how long will this contract take?

I’m pretty sure we are understaffed. That is why we are dead-heading CAs and FOs all over the country, financing our competition paying for those full-fare, non-ULCC tickets. That to me is a sore sign of being understaffed pilots.

Stayontarget 08-18-2023 02:38 PM


Originally Posted by togaflaps (Post 3684669)
How many are going to be down with engine issues or how many are going to be delayed? Last I heard yall are overstaffed from my f9 friends. I'm asking as I have a family member who just got hired at F9 and want to see what you all think. As for a contract I'd be surprised if it comes in less than 2 years. That would be one of the fastest full contracts negotiated, ever. I used to fly for an indigo company and I think I'm safe in saying they don't negotiate anything quickly.

Engine issues have 0% affect on us. Sometimes the god of revenue shines on a carrier.

edit: the previous engine issues involving P&W. Airbus delays are another story….

HSCompressor 08-18-2023 03:28 PM


Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3684785)
Engine issues have 0% affect on us. Sometimes the god of revenue shines on a carrier.

edit: the previous engine issues involving P&W. Airbus delays are another story….

is our fleet of PW engines even old enough to be having these issues already?

I thought spirit had issues with them, because their fleet is several years older.
We just started getting ours back in November.

6packSteamJedi 08-18-2023 04:25 PM

Didn’t you guys just rush though a new contract or something last year? Or was that spirit or JetBlue. Only thing I remember was some garbage being slammed in for a merger?

Salukipilot4590 08-18-2023 04:26 PM


Originally Posted by 6packSteamJedi (Post 3684814)
Didn’t you guys just rush though a new contract or something last year?

You're thinking of Spirit.


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