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Originally Posted by BobSacamano
(Post 3935439)
Lol. My man. Look at our quarterly “earnings” release. The NMB is gonna look at the company’s revenue generating ability (or lack thereof) and laugh at the idea that F9 is somehow obligated to pay legacy rates.
I’m noticing a distinct trend of the people I fly with. People are starting to worry more about the company’s long term viability than about the contract. Reality eventually hits. |
Originally Posted by TurboFanMan
(Post 3938597)
Come on man, I’ve heard that excuse sense 1995!! Guess what, we are still here. 😂
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes
(Post 3938600)
Doesn’t mean we aren’t aggressively circling the drain of nonexistent.
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes
(Post 3938600)
Doesn’t mean we aren’t aggressively circling the drain of nonexistent.
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M 2025 - Q1 loss of $43M 2024 - Q4 gain of $54M 2024 - Q3 gain of $26M 2024 - Q2 gain of $31M 2024 - Q1 loss of $26M While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand. |
Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 3938713)
So, there IS data that suggests we're consistently losing lately (unprofitable). It is no where near aggressive or would I consider it "circling the drain."
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M 2025 - Q1 loss of $43M 2024 - Q4 gain of $54M 2024 - Q3 gain of $26M 2024 - Q2 gain of $31M 2024 - Q1 loss of $26M While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand. |
Originally Posted by shrsailplanes
(Post 3938740)
That cash in hand number used to be quite a bit bigger. Biffle will undoubtedly mishandle Spirit for the um-teenth time in the coming months and we will be in an awful position with no ability to grow.
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Originally Posted by shrsailplanes
(Post 3938740)
That cash in hand number used to be quite a bit bigger. Biffle will undoubtedly mishandle Spirit for the um-teenth time in the coming months and we will be in an awful position with no ability to grow.
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Originally Posted by dracir1
(Post 3938713)
So, there IS data that suggests we're consistently losing lately (unprofitable). It is no where near aggressive or would I consider it "circling the drain."
2025 - Q2 loss of $70M 2025 - Q1 loss of $43M 2024 - Q4 gain of $54M 2024 - Q3 gain of $26M 2024 - Q2 gain of $31M 2024 - Q1 loss of $26M While many other airlines did much better (as we already know). Frontier Holdings has over $500M in cash on hand. |
Originally Posted by taketheshot
(Post 3938779)
they also said they have access to committed financing that will add 300M to their current 700M of liquidity. We’ll be sitting at 1B liquidity total by year end, with the largest ULCC in the US facing a fierce PR battle and (unfortunately) may not make it if they continue down this current path. Read a book man, touch some grass, let’s allow people who are facing worse situations to vent, we’ve got it good for now.
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Originally Posted by taketheshot
(Post 3938779)
they also said they have access to committed financing that will add 300M to their current 700M of liquidity. We’ll be sitting at 1B liquidity total by year end, with the largest ULCC in the US facing a fierce PR battle and (unfortunately) may not make it if they continue down this current path. Read a book man, touch some grass, let’s allow people who are facing worse situations to vent, we’ve got it good for now.
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