You are clearly just trolling but since no one has answered your first question I'll bite. Not for you, but for the many other pilots and aspiring pilots who read these forums.

We can strike. We can, given the circumstances are met, grind the airline to the ground. Frontier can't make a single penny without us. That's how we can demand pay and benefits similar to our Delta brothers.

Frontier management right now is delaying negotiations with us which they can do for a while. Maybe a long while, but at some point they either start negotiations for real or we get released to self help. And at that point, we hold the power.

So anyone who doesn't indulge in your fantasy is trolling?

Your company simply isn't making enough money to pay you what you're asking. That's it.

Good luck with the strike! The majority of you will vote and agree to a 25% (max) raise on your current rates for your next contract.

a job in an industry pays, in part, proportionate to it’s liability. An airbus pilot, regardless of who they work for has over a billion dollars of liability every time they fly…probably over 2 billion.

Exactly! F9 would need to make an ADDITIONAL ~$200 million a year to be able to afford to pay its pilots near legacy rates. They're not even making that much right now!

I'm sorry to break it to you, but that's not how it works. Insurance bill is proportionate to liability, not how much an employee gets paid. If what you think were true, a train engineer would probably make a few million dollars a year, and a cruise ship captain would make close to $100 million a year.

this might be the worst argument ever. If a train or cruise ship has catastrophic engine failure, they simply stop on the water or the tracks. The liability is not even close to the same. Granted, the chances are very small, but not nothing. Regardless of insurance, if a plane goes down, it has a very good chance of ending a company.

You just don't get it, do ya? Liability has to do with insurance, period. But mUh EnGiNe FaIlUrE...

you clearly have very little life experience. And what’s with the lower case and caps? Jesus, type like an adult. Maybe that’s a Boeing 717 thing. Liability has to do with survival of a company, regardless of insurance coverage.

An airline buys insurance to pay for liability. That's why F9's insurance bill on an A320 is pretty much the same as that of DL or even foreign airlines depending on the laws and regulations.

However, what an A320 pilot makes is only proportional to how much money the company is making. That's why you have A320 pilots making as little as $10 an hour in some parts of the world to as high as $400 in other parts.

Also, the way I typed the engine failure was to emphasize how childish you think of liability. You think the insurance bill is low on a cruise ship because if its engines fail nothing will happen? Liability is proportionate to the cost of the vessel and the souls on board, and not to the type of emergency.

It’s Spongecase and generally associated with the younger generation. Used as a mocking tone. Clear cut examples of their fallacy have been produced but it’s hard to educate those unwilling to learn so best to move on.