Originally Posted by Stayontarget (Post 3852857)

It’s Spongecase and generally associated with the younger generation. Used as a mocking tone. Clear cut examples of their fallacy have been produced but it’s hard to educate those unwilling to learn so best to move on.

Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 3852854)

An airline buys insurance to pay for liability. That's why F9's insurance bill on an A320 is pretty much the same as that of DL or even foreign airlines depending on the laws and regulations.

However, what an A320 pilot makes is only proportional to how much money the company is making. That's why you have A320 pilots making as little as $10 an hour in some parts of the world to as high as $400 in other parts.

Also, the way I typed the engine failure was to emphasize how childish you think of liability. You think the insurance bill is low on a cruise ship because if its engines fail nothing will happen? Liability is proportionate to the cost of the vessel and the souls on board, and not to the type of emergency.

Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 3852858)

yes, attack the man, not his argument. You guys are really mature.

Originally Posted by Russs (Post 3852861)

wrong again. What an airbus A320 pilot makes is proportionate to their value to the company, regardless of how much the company makes.

and again, liability in an airplane is way higher than on a cruise ship, precisely because of the potential emergency and the potential outcomes of them.

should F9 demand a cheaper insurance policy, or to pay less for gas or gate space because they don’t “make as much as a legacy”? No, or course not. Things cost what they cost, pilots are no different…and that’s our point.

Originally Posted by Russs (Post 3852864)

I read this amazing quote somewhere and it fits here too. It’s about Democrats, so I’m sorry if this offends anyone, and definitely don’t want to have a political battle.

“Arguing with libs is like playing chess with a pigeon….they knock over all the pieces, sh*t on the board, and then strut around like they won”.

Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 3852866)

Dude, you have zero understanding of insurance. The liability on a cruise ship with 8,000 people on board is a way way way more than your precious A320.

Also, read my other comment again. I clearly told you that insurance is almost the same across the board, and not cheaper for frontier, but A320 pilots make as little as $10 an hour in some parts of the world and as high as $400 in others.

Originally Posted by Russs (Post 3852861)

Things cost what they cost, pilots are no different…and that’s our point.

Originally Posted by Russs (Post 3852868)

so you do fly the 717? Is that where the attitude comes from..you don’t want lowly frontier pilots making more than a “Legacy” pilot? Honest question.

get off of the insurance, friend…liability has nothing to do with insurance.

I can’t speak for other countries…and don’t really care to. We live in the USA.

Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 3852867)

So, pretty much what the other guy did to me. Instead of dissecting my argument he just called me a bunch of names. He must be a democrat. You don't seem to be reading the posts very carefully.

Originally Posted by 3000 (Post 3852869)

Well, clearly that's not the case. You guys cost way less that legacy pilots. Your year 12 CA costs about the same as a year 4 FO at some places. At the same time you guys are crushing it compared to an A320 pilot in Pakistan. So, the point is pilots DO NOT cost the same.