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Originally Posted by madmax757
(Post 3792275)
I find it interesting when I see the opentime
trips. Multi day trips from LAS and 3 layovers in ATL or DEN doing turns. 🤷♂️ |
Originally Posted by Stayontarget
(Post 3792299)
Perhaps some are in that crowd but I have a look but don’t touch policy with Premium. Just the perfect one popped in Vegas today. Nope, not today Barry.
Or (if you’re a captain) a senior guy/gal who couldn’t care less . Lose-lose situation. Next time just take the premium. |
Originally Posted by redhot
(Post 3792071)
I'm wondering on when we will make any real progress with mediation taking place, I'm still under the impression we won't see anything voted on tuntil end of 25/early 26 at the earliest... The only way I see it happen earlier is if boeing gets their act toghether and starts delivering on the max 7/10 in the next year or two, which is highly unlikely...
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Originally Posted by HSCompressor
(Post 3792313)
What are the chances it goes to someone who has been on property for less than 1 year (and probably be gone in less than a year).
Or (if you’re a captain) a senior guy/gal who couldn’t care less . Lose-lose situation. Next time just take the premium. |
Originally Posted by Planedrive
(Post 3792402)
Defeatist. Perfect. Have you considered running for a union position?
Also, the pilot group can’t not pickup premium open time. I believe it was FEDEX that got in trouble for that exact same thing. How many pilots are selling their souls for straight pay open time? There’s a bunch of whiners on this website complaining there hasn’t been anything in the daily open time pool for them to pickup. |
Originally Posted by HSCompressor
(Post 3792427)
Defeatist? No. Realist? Yes.
Also, the pilot group can’t not pickup premium open time. I believe it was FEDEX that got in trouble for that exact same thing. How many pilots are selling their souls for straight pay open time? There’s a bunch of whiners on this website complaining there hasn’t been anything in the daily open time pool for them to pickup. |
Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R
(Post 3792476)
literally every cadet Pilot. They take all the open time to get hours for when United starts hiring again
Every new hire pilot is taking anything and everything with tons of trade board pickup posts to get their time and get out. |
Originally Posted by spooldup
(Post 3792495)
This^
Every new hire pilot is taking anything and everything with tons of trade board pickup posts to get their time and get out. |
Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R
(Post 3792500)
Exactly. So if you’re wondering why QOL has substantially gone down on the FO side that’s the reason. Zero Opentime and it all gets hoarded.
It was a stroke of luck that looks like a genius move by management. Stop premium for a few months. It changed the game and pilots became pitted against each other fairly quickly. As a pilot group we’ve yet to go back to the old ways. We are stuck in a cycle against ourselves. |
Originally Posted by Stayontarget
(Post 3792517)
And yet if they all worked together, in unity, to not pick up every second of open time the premium would flow like water. And perhaps if they worked together, in unity, to not pick up that premium in 0.02 seconds the payout for that premium would go higher. Other surprising benefits may begin to show up beyond that. It sounds impossible at this point but that’s exactly how it used to happen just two years ago. People used to drop their schedules and just wait. It was a glorious time where by working together everybody made their own lives better.
It was a stroke of luck that looks like a genius move by management. Stop premium for a few months. It changed the game and pilots became pitted against each other fairly quickly. As a pilot group we’ve yet to go back to the old ways. We are stuck in a cycle against ourselves. PR isn't stupid; as much as I might agree with you, posting this is. |
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