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fivebyfive 02-03-2024 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by ReserveCA (Post 3763187)
ya..... their "communication" goes unread into the trash

Excellent point. This should be one of the most importaint SOP's for every F9 pilot.

Stayontarget 03-16-2024 11:17 AM

I saw FedEx asked to get released from mediation after being in it since OCT 22. 16 months. But they had a rejected TA in there. I don’t know how long SWA was in mediation. What was their timeline?

redhot 04-12-2024 04:06 PM

I'm wondering on when we will make any real progress with mediation taking place, I'm still under the impression we won't see anything voted on tuntil end of 25/early 26 at the earliest... The only way I see it happen earlier is if boeing gets their act toghether and starts delivering on the max 7/10 in the next year or two, which is highly unlikely...

Planedrive 04-12-2024 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by redhot (Post 3792071)
I'm wondering on when we will make any real progress with mediation taking place, I'm still under the impression we won't see anything voted on tuntil end of 25/early 26 at the earliest... The only way I see it happen earlier is if boeing gets their act toghether and starts delivering on the max 7/10 in the next year or two, which is highly unlikely...

Pilots are still carrying maintenance items to get home, flying fast to make up for delays, extending, and picking up premiums. It’s going to be a long time. By the time this pilot group bands together enough for Barry to come to the table the pilot shortage will be over. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. It could be 2027-28. They have absolutely no reason to give us a contract this time around. Brad has said our pipeline program has 800 pilot in it.

Leslie Chow 04-13-2024 03:03 AM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 3792127)
Pilots are still carrying maintenance items to get home, flying fast to make up for delays, extending, and picking up premiums. It’s going to be a long time. By the time this pilot group bands together enough for Barry to come to the table the pilot shortage will be over. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. It could be 2027-28. They have absolutely no reason to give us a contract this time around. Brad has said our pipeline program has 800 pilot in it.

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sailingfun 04-13-2024 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 3792127)
Pilots are still carrying maintenance items to get home, flying fast to make up for delays, extending, and picking up premiums. It’s going to be a long time. By the time this pilot group bands together enough for Barry to come to the table the pilot shortage will be over. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. It could be 2027-28. They have absolutely no reason to give us a contract this time around. Brad has said our pipeline program has 800 pilot in it.

I had a friend who carried a maintenance item once. Got one year off from the FAA. The company did however pay him the reserve guarantee for that year so not all bad!

ERAUAV8R 04-13-2024 09:50 AM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 3792127)
Pilots are still carrying maintenance items to get home, flying fast to make up for delays, extending, and picking up premiums. It’s going to be a long time. By the time this pilot group bands together enough for Barry to come to the table the pilot shortage will be over. I wouldn’t hold my breath if I were you. It could be 2027-28. They have absolutely no reason to give us a contract this time around. Brad has said our pipeline program has 800 pilot in it.

“Picking up premium”

Love how people use this as an excuse because they still can’t figure out how to pick one up. Then they cry woe is me and blame bots.

Planedrive 04-13-2024 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R (Post 3792259)
“Picking up premium”

Love how people use this as an excuse because they still can’t figure out how to pick one up. Then they cry woe is me and blame bots.

Or some pilots are starting to realize management is running things as slim as possible. Picking up overtime is allowing management to run more displacements out of bases. Until flights start canceling due to lack of crews I would expect to see more displacements to right size each base that successfully staffs itself through the premium system. Just keep in mind every time you cover a flight or pick up a premium on your days off you are giving management a reason to displace another pilot to SJU, CLE, or CVG.

madmax757 04-13-2024 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by Planedrive (Post 3792262)
Or some pilots are starting to realize management is running things as slim as possible. Picking up overtime is allowing management to run more displacements out of bases. Until flights start canceling due to lack of crews I would expect to see more displacements to right size each base that successfully staffs itself through the premium system. Just keep in mind every time you cover a flight or pick up a premium on your days off you are giving management a reason to displace another pilot to SJU, CLE, or CVG.

I find it interesting when I see the opentime
trips. Multi day trips from LAS and 3 layovers in ATL or DEN doing turns. 🤷‍♂️

Stayontarget 04-13-2024 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by ERAUAV8R (Post 3792259)
“Picking up premium”

Love how people use this as an excuse because they still can’t figure out how to pick one up. Then they cry woe is me and blame bots.

Perhaps some are in that crowd but I have a look but don’t touch policy with Premium. Just the perfect one popped in Vegas today. Nope, not today Barry.


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