ToddChavez

I've pretty much down played the claims from others on status quo violations during negotiations on here. However, the company's decision to eliminate FDO lines except for MCO seems like a clear violation to me. Especially considering how vocal they've been about getting rid of them in this next contact.

fcoolaiddrinker

They have to build fdo if there’s more than 20 res in a seat in a domicile. Pretty sure that’s true in las and den. File a dispute if it’s in your domicile and they didn’t comply with 25.N.1.b. Pretty clear language there.

dracir1

This is correct.

Given the latest FDO update, thta means every base but MCO will have less than 20 reserve lines (CA side only).

itsnotme

Last negotiations seemed like the longer it went the more the company treated the CBA like a suggestion rather than a binding agreement. Typical wear down the group strategy. Top leaders making questionable operational decisions and creating a hostile work environment to get the group to cave. Today’s FDO move seems too blatant to classify as a mistake.

fcoolaiddrinker

It’s a strategy. Waste union time on low value arguments and create division. This isn’t one of them as the language is clear.

Planedrive

We started negotiations less than a year ago and in the 8 months since the company has changed the entire business model to turns,Involuntarily displaced 20% of the pilot group, forced them to move 1000 miles, downgrade, or commute to day turns. Now we are starting more obvious contract violations like FDO lines. We opened a base outside the lower 48 without consulting the union, coming to a reasonable agreement on issues such as healthcare or moving expenses, and staffed it with involuntary displacements. Not to mention the recent section 19’s over using sick time.

Unfortunately this is just the start. Welcome to negotiates 2024. It’s going to be an ugly couple years. If you are still here, mistakes were made. Good luck.

This is not status quo! Where is the union? I could have sworn I paid ALPA thousands of dollars per year to protect my job and support me. The least they could do is send an email condemning this management’s behavior.

dracir1

So...

This must mean that we are ALL in agreement that THE MOST IMPORTANT ITEM in the next CBA is language that forces the company to address/handle/resolve ANY AND ALL grievances within a timely manner (say 60 days) or the ramifications are that the grievenace is automatically awarded to the pilot? (BTW: similar language already exists in the UA contract).