Don't say things like that

Our pay rates are built into the hourly cost of aircraft usage. the fact that we are roughly 40% lower wasn't a silver bullet so far as revenue. The poor result of this quarter is because of not charging enough, to many bases and poor staff utilization. (from day turns). And as always an exceedingly bad reputation. This airline is turned inside out. the poorly thought out adjustments to the way we do business result in high turnover, low experienced pilots and Flight attendants and direct competition with NK while trying to be Ryan Air yet somehow failing miserably.

A low overhead model works not just as an Airline but just about every other kind of business as well. Our problems are not low overhead ,but poor execution.

If this company is going to fail it is not going to be because of flight crew pay rates.

Put another way. they offer nothing , we ask for the sun the stars and the moon. we end up somewhere in the middle
they offer nothing (as they have already) we ask for a modest pay raise and you can expect 30 to 50 % of what you ask for.

In four years people will be leaving F9 to go to SkyWest for the money if the situation does not improve.

 

You don't get it. You're probably a 25 year old Riddle Rat that has no idea what you're talking about or the airline industry in general. I recommend getting off apc and start researching airline and union history. Hopefully Breeze will hire you.

 

22 year old riddle rat, thanks.

 

Restricted ATP flying airplanes, union busting, and running for the next F9 ceo.

What can’t Embry Riddle graduates do?

 

find a girl 😂

 

I was gonna say they don’t shut up.

But, thumbs up, you win.

 

… in which a grown man or woman, unable to counter cogently the common sense argument laid out by a mere “25 year old Riddle Rat,” resorts to cheap ad hominem attacks.

Schoolyard bully behavior from someone who fancies themself the wiser and more mature one.

Only at the airlines baby! 😂

 

The airline lost money this quarter. F U and your contract was the response.

Real sturdy ground breaking arguments there bob.

I bet you’re the type of person to call yourself “smart”.

 

bottom line, if the chicken laying the golden egg dies, no more eggs

the company's health indeed is important.

with that said, pay negotiations should not be "held up" for something outside of pilot control. This is not 9-11 or COVID. Barry and Gang have decided to outsource everything and end up with horrible gate agents, and a poor customer experience.

They are "accepting airplanes" because when you buy a car, the dealer doesn't store it for you. Come get your car. "But We don't need a car now." Not our problem, get this car off our lot, you own it now. So "accepting airplanes" means nothing. Of course they are "accepting" them. this goes back to Barry decision making.

He should have kept the XLR orders and jumped on the PHL (huge Irish population) to Dublin market. At least then, he would have diversified his portfolio with some international customers (wait, international is important and lucrative? who woulda thought?) versus hanging his hat on the ULCC customer.

Again, back to Barry decision making.

Pilots should not be penalized for that.

 

Would the XLR made PHL to dublin? I know there's been some debate about the range they were advertising.

D Schurz one said in recurrent "No LCC has crossed the atlantic, and survived. Do we wanna be the first to try? With NBs?"

I always felt like he was one of the adults in the room. But, I could be wrong. Here we are.