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Old 08-18-2025 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabi
12 yr CA rate for 2026 was $394.68 in original ask.

12 yr CA rate for 2026 is $374.40 in the new ask.

Thats a $20.28 reduction. It’s also way behind the “big boys”. Color me not amused.

The only saving grace is the market rate adjustment of this proposal would catch F9 up to legacy rates in year three, at the “end” of this new contract. If it actually worked.
Yeah, this is a SOLID NO from me. There's no way the so-called QoL items will make up the difference (especially when you consider the company will find a way to negate most of those items)...
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Old 08-18-2025 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
Yeah, this is a SOLID NO from me. There's no way the so-called QoL items will make up the difference (especially when you consider the company will find a way to negate most of those items)...

everyone praises the QOL items. Forgetting we fly off hours more than any other carrier.

the majority of our seniority list is red eye flying.


what QOL is that? With more people and less resources. Pay me.
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Old 08-18-2025 | 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by VisionWings
everyone praises the QOL items. Forgetting we fly off hours more than any other carrier.

the majority of our seniority list is red eye flying.


what QOL is that? With more people and less resources. Pay me.
Give us intl and redeye override and min day and watch redeyes go senior... lol
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Old 08-18-2025 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
Yeah, this is a SOLID NO from me. There's no way the so-called QoL items will make up the difference (especially when you consider the company will find a way to negate most of those items)...
Yeah, it's easy to say that now but when a TA arrives in your inbox with a $70,000 raise, it's a bit more complicated than "SOLID NO"
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Old 08-19-2025 | 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Yeah, it's easy to say that now but when a TA arrives in your inbox with a $70,000 raise, it's a bit more complicated than "SOLID NO"
No the F it's not!!!!!

I can do math bro. Raising my pay up to the bottom (like last time) is a SOLID NO. If you're good with it, then we'll know come vote day.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
No the F it's not!!!!!

I can do math bro. Raising my pay up to the bottom (like last time) is a SOLID NO. If you're good with it, then we'll know come vote day.
that latest economic proposal from ALPA will absolutely be a yes vote
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Old 08-19-2025 | 04:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BusDriver2000
that latest economic proposal from ALPA will absolutely be a yes vote
This mentality is exactly why F9 will remain a stepping stone airline.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1
This mentality is exactly why F9 will remain a stepping stone airline.
that contract would result in far fewer people leaving this airline
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Old 08-19-2025 | 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by BusDriver2000
that latest economic proposal from ALPA will absolutely be a yes vote
The money is fine. It's the rest that will determine which way I'd vote.
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Old 08-19-2025 | 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by BusDriver2000
that contract would result in far fewer people leaving this airline
People stay due to the seniority system (I will be leaving though). People come for the pay (or they didn't get called by the others who pay more). Do you think anyone is choosing F9 w/ an offer from anyone else? There is just no substitute for the rate - no amount of so called QoL items will make up for it. We just proved that last cycle.

Can't believe you'd be willing to do it again but to each his own...
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