A rational thought...on APC of all places!

 

I am here to fight for a contract. I know it's an uphill battle ,but I disagree with the assertion that this can only be found at the big 4. None of those companies were just handed their contracts on a silver platter. I understand it involves some deal making. If we can make the company more money. We can Negotiate our cut of that money. Be it in pay, work rules or benefits. I have no problem working harder. The majority of pilots I fly with want to work harder. I doubt we will make Delta pay, but I say let the profits dictate the rewards. Our operation is bent into a pretzel caused by both growing pains and disfunction. If we can get things streamlined our current ask is probably to reasonable. It all hinges on Managements ability to get this operation running smoothly and our willingness to make it work.

The best way I could put it here is many of us have been disinterested in the outcomes of the operation ,and the infinite dumpster fire that it has been for a long time. So many of us just shrug and say "that is what they want to do" I wouldn't ask anyone to drink the Koolaid, but if and when you see the operation come together in a less dysfunctional way I hope you can put some pride into your work, get things done, and possibly that a taste of having running a well oiled machine is enough to bring management to the table.

At the end of the day All of us want to work for an Airline we can take pride in. Being able to have pride in our company is where we will find the rewards. It is a tall feat with so many lingering problems, but with the shift in CEOs this is a good time to try harder.

[this post took an odd turn as I was writing it. As I though harder about it my mind settled on the "Rising profits raises all ships argument." because the "whine your way to wealth" argument as av8nallday said does not seem to be working.]

 

this is the most pathetic thing I’ve ever read on here. Hopefully this is a troll account

 

I don’t disagree with wanting pride or a better operation. I disagree that those things translate into negotiating power on their own.

Airlines don’t pay for effort—they pay when they have to. The reason the big four contracts exist isn’t because pilots proved they cared more, it’s because they had leverage and alternatives.

I hope rising profits lift everyone, but without guarantees written into a contract, history says they usually don’t.

 

It’s truly inspiring to watch this pilot group stand firmly behind management. Faced with a 50% pay gap, most pilot groups would revolt. Frontier pilots, however, rise above such distractions.

Management is so thankful for your extra hard work they are giving out 20 hour premium day trips to 3 lucky pilots in ATL tomorrow. It really is a culture of caring!

 

It for sure is, lots of easy juicy troll premium pickings in the F9 forum

 

There is certainly a component that if the company profits can’t support the increases the NMB doesn’t really help you much.

The more profits the have the easier it is to get some of it.

 

So...what exactly is "revolt" supposed to look like? How does one start the revolution (and keep their job)?

 

Fly the contract

 

So flying the contract (the very contract Mgt wants you to fly) is revolting?

Picking up OT and Premium is in the contract.