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Rumor is…last tailstrike was a crewmember(s) who picked up premium.

wonder if that’s what finally got this action to be taken. Or pressure applied from above mgmt.

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Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 4023666)

If you want to see the names of these pilots, just search the pairings... The same 10-15 pilots pick up everything. There are many pilots who are starting to deny these pilots on their JS if it is for a premium trip.

Such professionals.

That pilot group is beyond cooked.

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Originally Posted by flyer138 (Post 4023697)

Context of said Memo would be great.

F138-

The gist is don't use bots to break the rules of our company, FLiCA, and basic morality.

Anyone see the list of names released into the FB group??

Some pilots got 18-20 premiums last month?

How is this ok.

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Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 4023666)

We have captains crediting over 200hrs a month, JSing anywhere and everywhere, sleeping in airports, taking anything they can get to make as much as possible. They wouldn't even have to work 50% as hard to make close to the same money if we had a new contract, but these pilots are greedy.

If you have names, pairing numbers, specific FAR 117 violations or personal stories you should fill out ASAP’s.

The FAA is starting to look into this.

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Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 4023734)

Anyone see the list of names released into the FB group??

Some pilots got 18-20 premiums last month?

How is this ok.

That sounds like a great question for your union rep. Let us know what they say.

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Originally Posted by spooldup (Post 4023734)

Anyone see the list of names released into the FB group??

Some pilots got 18-20 premiums last month?

How is this ok.

If they did it within the bounds of the CBA, adhering to 117 rest requirements, and without the use of automated software, am I supposed to be angry? Serious question.

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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI (Post 4023757)

If they did it within the bounds of the CBA, adhering to 117 rest requirements, and without the use of automated software, am I supposed to be angry? Serious question.

No, but with how hard it is to get 1 premium it’s hard to believe anyone can get 18 without some sort of automated software

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Originally Posted by LifetimeCFI (Post 4023757)

If they did it within the bounds of the CBA, adhering to 117 rest requirements, and without the use of automated software, am I supposed to be angry? Serious question.

guarantee no one on that list are doing this within those. For instance a premium just went out and they have to commute from xyz to xyz(I won’t call out bases). The only flight left gets in at 23:59 and the report time for said premium is 0515L… so you’re telling me they are within their 117 limits. Bull crap

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Originally Posted by Togaabort (Post 4023783)

We gotta stop talking about Part 117. Part 117 has nothing to do with a pilot’s personal time. It’s strictly company related, even the fit for duty we sign. We sign it agreeing we are not fatigued due to any company related rest requirements.

If a pilot shows up not prepared to fly because they came in on a red eye and then flying all day, it’s whole different ball of wax. I’d say ASAP is probably the best choice. And if you think the other pilot is not safe, stop the show, call crew scheduling and tell them to send in a reserve. If no reserves are available (because hey, the tired pilot is on premium so highly likely) and the company cancels a flight(s), guess what will happen? If CD is serious, you can bet there will be a Sec19. This stuff will stop fast.