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Togaabort 04-14-2026 03:02 PM

Premium is king
 
So does everyone think this last memo will fix premiums?

spooldup 04-15-2026 05:35 AM

Maybe... maybe not.

fcoolaiddrinker 04-15-2026 05:49 AM


Originally Posted by Togaabort (Post 4023449)
So does everyone think this last memo will fix premiums?

No. The fix will be when we get to some sort of fifo system similar to nk. It’s the best system imo. Seniority based has its own issues.

LinaPeru 04-15-2026 07:05 AM

The bad news is: it said things everyone knew was already true.

The good news is: it dispels the narrative that “the company doesn’t care, it only cares that the trips get covered”

DrJekyll MrHyde 04-15-2026 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 4023600)
The bad news is: it said things everyone knew was already true.

The good news is: it dispels the narrative that “the company doesn’t care, it only cares that the trips get covered”

I agree with both of those statements.

ginntonic 04-15-2026 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 4023600)
The good news is: it dispels the narrative that “the company doesn’t care, it only cares that the trips get covered”

Slightly disagree.

Action, not docunet notes, will dispel the narrative. The company put out a similar warning via docunet almost two years ago and abuse continued.

spooldup 04-15-2026 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by ginntonic (Post 4023654)
Slightly disagree.

Action, not docunet notes, will dispel the narrative. The company put out a similar warning via docunet almost two years ago and abuse continued.

Kind of... It was just about bot usage.

This latest memo was solely because there were pilots unable to fly the trip and cancellations. I will bet my whole paycheck for the month that if there weren't a ton of UTFs and sick calls, there wouldn't have been a memo, further showing that they only care about the bottom line, not pilots breaking FAR117 rules to fly trips that would normally pay about straight pay at a shop with a new contract.

We have captains crediting over 200hrs a month, JSing anywhere and everywhere, sleeping in airports, taking anything they can get to make as much as possible. They wouldn't even have to work 50% as hard to make close to the same money if we had a new contract, but these pilots are greedy.

If you want to see the names of these pilots, just search the pairings... The same 10-15 pilots pick up everything. There are many pilots who are starting to deny these pilots on their JS if it is for a premium trip. FOs who are ASAPing flights with them as well due to them falling asleep mid flight or on arrival. It is insane and needs to stop.

LinaPeru 04-15-2026 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by ginntonic (Post 4023654)
Slightly disagree.

Action, not docunet notes, will dispel the narrative. The company put out a similar warning via docunet almost two years ago and abuse continued.

for better or for worst, “action” is probably easier said than done. You need proof, a pattern, give warnings, bring a case, fight union representation, get a final verdict.

Then, after all that, maybe you punish them. Maybe you punish them severely. Maybe you can fire them. Maybe the union gets their job back.

im not saying I disagree with you.

Stayontarget 04-15-2026 09:48 AM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 4023677)
for better or for worst, “action” is probably easier said than done. You need proof, a pattern, give warnings, bring a case, fight union representation, get a final verdict.

Then, after all that, maybe you punish them. Maybe you punish them severely. Maybe you can fire them. Maybe the union gets their job back.

im not saying I disagree with you.

My understanding was that there were punishments. It would have been prudent to let the pilot group know what those punishments were to help prevent further stupidity.

flyer138 04-15-2026 10:20 AM

Context of said Memo would be great.

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