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Old 04-30-2015, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Bugaboo View Post
I hope your new shiny contract...whenever that comes...pays a 3rd year Captain $180 an hour. That would be a nice improvement!! Its around $120 now right?
I don't know what it will be. Everyone knows Frontier is behind the pay curve. I was making a point. I could have used their current pay scale and still made my point. Virgin America year 3 is $168 as a CA, and $98 as an FO. One has got to assume it will be at least that much in the next contract.

The point I was making is: don't get yourself in the golden handcuffs. Expect and plan for a pay cut on the first year.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:09 PM
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It's a bit excessive of a pay cut though for most. Most people with kids cannot even consider frontier for this reason, they are missing an opportunity to hire good people.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by airtim6 View Post
Are we serious guys? I've made one post to initiate things which included several candid questions out of genuine interest. Additionally, a follow up to some "bro" who didn't like my statement that EVEN as a first officer, I'd take a pay cut…Usually it's a pay cut from the left seat to the right seat of an airbus. Finally, to state I'm at SKW was just implying it's not a bad place to be as a CA, financially. Look, I was just interested in getting some answers to questions MANY people have who just read your posts (which I have, yes all 200+ pgs) and fear posting because of your replies lol…Perhaps because I was curious of "updated" information not info from 2011. Anyway, sure do appreciate the respectful replies, genuinely interested guy here, thank yous.
When I read your original post it sounded like a slam on Frontier's first year pay. If I read it again, it still sounds like that. But after I read through more of your posts I realize that you must not know that taking a pay cut to move from a regional to a major has been a common thing that almost everyone has to do. I don't agree with it, but that's the way it is. Seems to be getting a little better in the past few major contracts tho.
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Old 04-30-2015, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Car Ramrod View Post
I don't know what it will be. Everyone knows Frontier is behind the pay curve. I was making a point. I could have used their current pay scale and still made my point. Virgin America year 3 is $168 as a CA, and $98 as an FO. One has got to assume it will be at least that much in the next contract.

The point I was making is: don't get yourself in the golden handcuffs. Expect and plan for a pay cut on the first year.
At least that much hopefully. VA is about to vote in ALPA and negotiate its first CBA so no raises there for a while. Im sure your new contract will have much better payscales.
I think if someone is close to upgrading at SKW they should do it and not go to Frontier as an FO-FO move. Get the PIC time and experience and apply at the Big 3. Unless of course one wants to give a career at F9 a shot. Then by all means go for it. Used to be that F9 wouldnt look at you if you didnt have some turbine PIC. Obviously times have changed.
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Old 04-30-2015, 05:21 PM
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Yeah I received the automated TBNT, then an hour and a half later I got the "Today, we closed...." email. Sounds like if you had an application in last year, those were purged yesterday.
All of this is because HR has their heads firmly up their booties. Pathetic, and way to take responsibility for their egregious screw up. Once you're past the HR debacle, this is actually a pretty good place to be. I do wish we had an HR department with a clue, though.
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Old 05-01-2015, 04:31 AM
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All of this is because HR has their heads firmly up their booties. Pathetic, and way to take responsibility for their egregious screw up. Once you're past the HR debacle, this is actually a pretty good place to be. I do wish we had an HR department with a clue, though.
Got the same sort of email from jetBlue last year... Don't understand why you people get your knickers in a twist, just because it's frontier.
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Old 05-01-2015, 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rjfoguy View Post
Got the same sort of email from jetBlue last year... Don't understand why you people get your knickers in a twist, just because it's frontier.
No twisted knickers, just déjà vu with this HR department. Don't know about other airlines, but it doesn't seem too hard for HR to just do its job.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:13 AM
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Hey guys just seeing if anyone else has gotten the call to set up an interview. I went to OBAP and was told they'd call to schedule an interview but with all the TBNT emails not sure if I got the cut.
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Old 05-01-2015, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Toadaso View Post
Hey guys just seeing if anyone else has gotten the call to set up an interview. I went to OBAP and was told they'd call to schedule an interview but with all the TBNT emails not sure if I got the cut.
Toadaso, you're still in the running. The TBNT email were auto generated for applicants in a old system that F9 was using for resumes and applications. They've switched to new software and a new HR department for screening applications, so those emails were simply "cleaning out" the old system.

If you were at OBAP in Vegas, and we told you to expect a phone call, you're right where you need to be. You should be getting a call soon. (I think the May interview dates are full now, so it'll likely be June or later before you interview.)
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Old 05-01-2015, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Toadaso View Post
Hey guys just seeing if anyone else has gotten the call to set up an interview. I went to OBAP and was told they'd call to schedule an interview but with all the TBNT emails not sure if I got the cut.

Went to Obap and am still waiting as well so you're good! Hopefully sometime next week.
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