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Originally Posted by Jetalc
(Post 2629318)
I honestly don't understand why people are beating up on this post. It makes complete sense to me, and I agree wholeheartedly.
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
(Post 2629329)
Agreed 100% as well.
Plus, regional airline lifers are major airline CEO's wet-dreams. |
Frontier Hiring.
Originally Posted by DENpilot
(Post 2629341)
This place is better than bidding #1 as an FO at ANY regional. Saying otherwise makes you completely ignorant to how regionals operate or a complete idiot.
Plus, regional airline lifers are major airline CEO's wet-dreams. This very well may be true. However, if you put your ego aside, you might see it as a good thing for F9 pilots to have regional guys voice that they value themselves enough to pass on joining the bottom ranks of F9 in its current form. The more people that do pass up F9 and the harder it is to staff the growth of the airline, the less your management can deny the fact they need to catch up to the rest of the industry. It makes total sense to me for regional guys that are comfortable in their current situation to pass on F9 while waiting until the airline with the compensation package, QOL etc. that suits their needs calls. It just might be F9 when your management finally wakes up and you guys get the contract you deserve. Don’t take it so personally is all I’m trying to say JMHO as an outsider. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Burton78
(Post 2629387)
This very well may be true. However, if you put your ego aside, you might see it as a good thing for F9 pilots to have regional guys voice that they value themselves enough to pass on joining the bottom ranks of F9 in its current form. The more people that do pass up F9 and the harder it is to staff the growth of the airline, the less your management can deny the fact they need to catch up to the rest of the industry.
It makes total sense to me for regional guys that are comfortable in their current situation to pass on F9 while waiting until the airline with the compensation package, QOL etc. that suits their needs calls. It just might be F9 when your management finally wakes up and you guys get the contract you deserve. Don’t take it so personally is all I’m trying to say JMHO as an outsider. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by Burton78
(Post 2629387)
This very well may be true. However, if you put your ego aside, you might see it as a good thing for F9 pilots to have regional guys voice that they value themselves enough to pass on joining the bottom ranks of F9 in its current form. The more people that do pass up F9 and the harder it is to staff the growth of the airline, the less your management can deny the fact they need to catch up to the rest of the industry.
It makes total sense to me for regional guys that are comfortable in their current situation to pass on F9 while waiting until the airline with the compensation package, QOL etc. that suits their needs calls. It just might be F9 when your management finally wakes up and you guys get the contract you deserve. Don’t take it so personally is all I’m trying to say JMHO as an outsider. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk JMHO as an INSIDER. |
Originally Posted by Burton78
(Post 2629387)
This very well may be true. However, if you put your ego aside, you might see it as a good thing for F9 pilots to have regional guys voice that they value themselves enough to pass on joining the bottom ranks of F9 in its current form. The more people that do pass up F9 and the harder it is to staff the growth of the airline, the less your management can deny the fact they need to catch up to the rest of the industry.
It makes total sense to me for regional guys that are comfortable in their current situation to pass on F9 while waiting until the airline with the compensation package, QOL etc. that suits their needs calls. It just might be F9 when your management finally wakes up and you guys get the contract you deserve. Don’t take it so personally is all I’m trying to say JMHO as an outsider. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
Originally Posted by DENpilot
(Post 2629341)
This place is better than bidding #1 as an FO at ANY regional. Saying otherwise makes you completely ignorant to how regionals operate or a complete idiot.
Plus, regional airline lifers are major airline CEO's wet-dreams. |
Originally Posted by Burton78
(Post 2629387)
This very well may be true. However, if you put your ego aside, you might see it as a good thing for F9 pilots to have regional guys voice that they value themselves enough to pass on joining the bottom ranks of F9 in its current form. The more people that do pass up F9 and the harder it is to staff the growth of the airline, the less your management can deny the fact they need to catch up to the rest of the industry.
It makes total sense to me for regional guys that are comfortable in their current situation to pass on F9 while waiting until the airline with the compensation package, QOL etc. that suits their needs calls. It just might be F9 when your management finally wakes up and you guys get the contract you deserve. Don’t take it so personally is all I’m trying to say JMHO as an outsider. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Banking we get a contract because people won't come here is wishful thinking, a bad strategy, and puts us waiting forever. Please don't say F9 is already having trouble finding pilots. They are not. They are still turning away 50% of interviewees. Their pickiness will come down, as necessity dictates, as it measurably already has, but they will always find plenty of bodies for their seats. They decide how many classes to run and how big, and their current short staffing issues are a result of their hiring decisions, not for lack of qualified applicants. |
Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
(Post 2630091)
Very well put. But unfortunately (and I mean unfortunately!) I think it's irrelevant. There simply will never exist a scenario where Frontier cannot staff their airline. The bottom of the barrel runs very deep. There are plenty of people not hirable at Legacies. There are plenty of people who will choose F9 over a stagnant regional.
Banking we get a contract because people won't come here is wishful thinking, a bad strategy, and puts us waiting forever. Please don't say F9 is already having trouble finding pilots. They are not. They are still turning away 50% of interviewees. Their pickiness will come down, as necessity dictates, as it measurably already has, but they will always find plenty of bodies for their seats. They decide how many classes to run and how big, and their current short staffing issues are a result of their hiring decisions, not for lack of qualified applicants. |
Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
(Post 2630091)
Very well put. But unfortunately (and I mean unfortunately!) I think it's irrelevant. There simply will never exist a scenario where Frontier cannot staff their airline. The bottom of the barrel runs very deep. There are plenty of people not hirable at Legacies. There are plenty of people who will choose F9 over a stagnant regional.
Banking we get a contract because people won't come here is wishful thinking, a bad strategy, and puts us waiting forever. Please don't say F9 is already having trouble finding pilots. They are not. They are still turning away 50% of interviewees. Their pickiness will come down, as necessity dictates, as it measurably already has, but they will always find plenty of bodies for their seats. They decide how many classes to run and how big, and their current short staffing issues are a result of their hiring decisions, not for lack of qualified applicants. |
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