Not sure if serious..

If so, coal jobs are coming back and flip phones are the future of communications!

How about we practice the stuff we never do; stalls, steep turns, terrain avoidance, etc, and have jeopardy events on what we do every single day. F9 is in the stone age of reccurent training.

“Our contract is actually pretty good and we’ll catch up after the NMB releases us. The gas station on our STL overnight has some great new sandwiches!”

I’m not sure if you’re kidding or serious, but in my experience the only types I know of who think this way either have no experience with AQP or went through a poorly run/organized AQP program. AQP but is significantly better than the old school PC/PT format in just about every way.

I guess I went through a poorly run aqp program then. Mine was every 9 months both CAs and FOs went, 2 day event. Day one standard pc. Day 2 loft with a standard line turn with 1 or 2 problems...ie hydraulic failure or something similar...that’s it. Much less training then I have received at this airline and another that ran PC/PT. You can accomplish a LOT more in a proper PT in my experience, but like I said, maybe I’ve just never seen a proper AQP program.

What are you talking about? More productive? AQP is basically train on the things you are weak on until you get it right. How could that not be more productive than doing 1 v1 cut "to standards" once in 6 or 12 months? Obviously other people have commented already but seriously....where were you?

In any event. The FAA had mandated all airlines to have an AQP program by 2018 I believe. However, with recent budget cuts that is no longer the case with the FAA. Hence, we move forward with what we have. AQP is too expensive to switch to in the short term which is why Indigo has not made the switch. Hopefully that means they are only around for the short term.

Like I said before, in the aqp program I went through, you got 1 emergency or abnormal situation to handle during a turn an that’s it....pointless. In a proper PT you can practice all kinds of things, which is very productive. Maybe if we go AQP it will be different then my experience.

The problem with aqp is there is zero pressure to perform... if you can’t pass a regular type ride with 5 or 6 emergency scenarios, then you probably can’t handle it in the plane... aqp is no pilot left behind, hold your hand until you get it... then you’re stuck flying with some dipsh!t when the rubber meets the road... depending on the setup, I can’t see how it would be more expensive than what we have now

That's not true at all, you can absolutely bust with aqp. The idea is to train the things you don't do regularly, v1 cuts, SE go around, etc and get checked on the stuff you do every week. You still have to perform up to standards within the allotted amount of sim time provided.

All I know is at my last airline when I upgraded, it was almost a 33% failure rate the first time through... every person I know who failed upgrade, made it through easily when they went to aqp

33% failure? It sounds like the problem was your airline, not AQP.