MrIncredible

The only warning people need is to ignore people like you.


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KirillTheThrill

Look yourself in the mirror on that one recruiter. And while you’re looking at yourself in the mirror, take off your GoJet hat and removed the clown paint from your face 🤡.

V4LKYR1ExONE

Well. Do you feel better now that you got that ‘I told you so’ off your chest?

I accepted a job offer here back before the hiring freeze thawed. GoJet was the first to call and they offered the earliest class date. Since getting back into 121 was better for the resume than another few months as a CFI, it was a gamble I was willing to take. Once the other companies started hiring again, I didn’t want to be the pilot that just bails without finishing a 121 training cycle. Regrettably, I turned down other offers, but I don’t want to have to explain to Southwest or whoever later on why I left GoJet in the middle of their training. Maybe some pilots don’t think that’s a big deal, but to the person who has to decide whether or not it’s worth it to invest thousands of dollars into your training, it’s a factor.

I’m carefully considering all my options right now. The waiting game is brutal, but Line holders are getting 90+ hour lines, and one of my classmates who finished IOE in time to bid already has a line for November. When the goal is to get the hours and move vertically through the industry as quickly as possible, putting up with mismanagement in some respects is acceptable, or at least it’s a trade-off to avoid sitting reserve for months on end and accruing very little time. Of course, I realize I say that while waiting 3 months for IOE, but the bottleneck wasn’t this backed up when I signed on. Classes ahead of us in IOE had only waited about 3 weeks. The situation changes rapidly in this industry.

At this point I’m just trying to put the truth out there, without all the trash-talking. Insulting pilots who choose to come here is not helpful, because it encourages people to ignore everything you say. When your posts read like you have an axe to grind with a particular company, it’s easy to write off your complaints as biased. The same goes for company cheerleaders. It’s just like talking to a recruiter, they will only sell the good aspects and they will dodge negative topics like a seasoned politician.

However, if a pilot is willing to say ‘hey, I made the choice you’re considering, and here’s the reality of my experience’ without sounding like a bitter ex-girlfriend, the information provided can be helpful. At least the pilots reading this now can make a more informed decision than I did. The problem with posts two years ago complaining about this company is that they can’t be relied on to reflect the status quo. Three months from now, the info I’m providing could be completely inaccurate.

I do agree that it can only get better though. Even if GoJet doesn’t survive their growing pains, it’s a net positive for every pilot with a new type rating or ATP certificate and any additional 121 experience.

MrIncredible

Well said.

If you wanna build your time, upgrade, get your time and get out at quickly as possible. This is the place to do it. Yes this place has training pains and management pains. But hey, I hold a line with days I want off. I can fly 90+ hours if I choose too, make extra money to choose too. I came here to get my time. Upgrade ASAP. Get my 1000 PIC and get out ASAP and it’s happening.


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KirillTheThrill

How are you suppose to build time when you’re waiting to start IOE for 6 months. Let’s hope this place is still running in 6 months. You seriously have to be out of your mind or clueless to think this is the correct choice to start your career.

As the poster that replied to me said, some guys were just trying to get out of the CFI job, I can understand that position, but the warnings were given.

Btw idk what’s going on, but from causal conversations with UA crew, I’ve heard Gojet is ****ing off UA management. A contract was signed, and tbh UA is only to blame for being foolish enough to try a trans states holdings ran operation.

Jptaviation

So from what i have been reading and asking people that fly with different regionals everyone is backed up for IOE from 3-6 months. Also i don't understand if United is so disgruntled with GOJET why would they give them more premium flight routes going forward this year and 20 more aircraft over the next year.

MrIncredible

Yes this is true. I have friends at other places. Training is backed up everywhere


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MrIncredible

I think it’s funny that you’re at United now and still come on the forums and attack other people. Like if you really are at United why still come here? Your at the end goal. Why so focused on what everyone else is doing. Focus on yourself. You’re on Air Whiskeys page a lot. You must be or used to be one of them. No wonder you hate GoJet so much lol
Just another troll

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V4LKYR1ExONE

Yes, some places will front load the delays, and risk not getting pilots to even show up for class, because some other places back load the delays and get you on the hook before stringing you along. Either strategy it sounds like there’s some degree of waiting everywhere. All the regional companies rent the same sims with few exceptions. Every company in the industry either massively scaled down or completely stopped their training departments. All regionals are hemorrhaging pilots right now, and if they aren’t losing experienced crew, then growth prospects are suspect.

At the end of the day it’s on each individual pilot to make the best decision personally. Everyone has individual preferences and needs so it’s not that useful to take blind advice when what each pilot should do is figure what they want out of a particular career phase. If I was sitting in Mr. Incredible’s seat, I’d have a different outlook. After all, my goal is to fly the paint off a jet and get out of regional hell as soon as possible. Some pilots don’t mind sitting at a regional for several years because they believe the ‘flow’ is worth it. I think a ‘flow’ is a double-edged sword personally, so it’s not a factor in my decision-making. Some want decent quality of life and are willing to spend more time at a ‘better regional’ to get it. I’m willing to sacrifice a little QOL for a couple years while I’m still young, in order to start working on seniority at my destination airline sooner.

I’m not sitting in on the United board meetings, so I can’t tell you what they think about anything. I know they keep giving GoJet more flying than we can staff, and GoJet keeps converting 700s to 550s at a rate of full steam ahead. While the company is on target in terms of adding 2 jets per month to the Ops Specs, getting the pilots on line to fly is not so smooth. Given the resurgent pilot shortage, maybe big daddy United will have the patience to wait for GoJet to deliver on its promise. Or Maybe they’ll start throwing money at the problem like American has with PSA and their ‘187,000’ in bonuses (read the fine print my friends). Or maybe United will cut its losses and find some other high performing regional outfit to fly its 550s(haha). I’m willing to wager that not even United has that figured out yet.

At the end of the day you’re reading the perspectives and opinions of a bunch of strangers on the internet. Take all the information and try to make a good decision for yourself. I wish you all the best of luck and I hope my input is of some use to others.

RabidW0mbat

whats even more funny is watching you do the same thing on the ZW / C5 threads. Pot calling the kettle black much? 🙄