Training Update
11-03-2021, 12:27 PM
#51
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Originally Posted by Claxstarr
AW also has a single type fleet.
OO has to have instructors for 2 types, and then within the CRJ, there is an additional 700-900 training event that has to happen.
LCA groups have to exist for CRJ2 CRJ7 CRJ9 & ERJ175.
This means there are more training events and more line checks in order to fly the line than a company like AW.
It’s simply not an apples to apples comparison.
OO has to have instructors for 2 types, and then within the CRJ, there is an additional 700-900 training event that has to happen.
LCA groups have to exist for CRJ2 CRJ7 CRJ9 & ERJ175.
This means there are more training events and more line checks in order to fly the line than a company like AW.
It’s simply not an apples to apples comparison.
11-03-2021, 04:01 PM
#52
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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5
this is true that it takes more, the thing is airline pilots can only fly one thing at a time. The amount of resources is the same to take a person from zero to hero regardless of number of fleets. The only thing that takes a little more resources is when someone upgrades into a new fleet, this take more sim time and ground school, but OE is the same regardless. Also Skywest has sim slots that go completely un-used right now while other companies have zero sim availability. Everyone else is hitting a wall with sim availability cause Skywest bought it all with no ability to use it all (smart move)
I don’t know where you’re getting this information from, but it is 100%, without a doubt, incorrect.
11-05-2021, 04:30 PM
#53
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121 Pilots aren’t interchangeable parts even in a single type airline. Both line check airmen and captains are a critical resource that can’t be renewed quickly. captains take about 18 months to grow minimum
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
Last edited by ZeroTT; 11-05-2021 at 04:54 PM.
11-06-2021, 07:06 AM
#54
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Originally Posted by ZeroTT
121 Pilots aren’t interchangeable parts even in a single type airline. Both line check airmen and captains are a critical resource that can’t be renewed quickly. captains take about 18 months to grow minimum
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
11-07-2021, 04:02 PM
#55
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Originally Posted by V4LKYR1ExONE
According to 121.439, landing currency can be reestablished under the supervision of a check airman, and this can be accomplished in the airplane or sim. My understanding is no, you don’t need to be current to start IOE.
https://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_g...lookup/121.439
I reserve the right to be mistaken in my interpretation of regs at any time.
https://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_g...lookup/121.439
I reserve the right to be mistaken in my interpretation of regs at any time.
11-08-2021, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ninerdriver
Shut an airline down, and the pilots will end up getting acquired eventually.
in 10 years they would be Captains at a Major or LLC. Just looks at past history when this has happened… A solid good regional only prolongs your stay there…
11-08-2021, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by amcnd
in 10 years they would be Captains at a Major or LLC. Just looks at past history when this has happened… A solid good regional only prolongs your stay there…
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