Training Update
11-03-2021 | 12:27 PM
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AW also has a single type fleet.
OO has to have instructors for 2 types, and then within the CRJ, there is an additional 700-900 training event that has to happen.
LCA groups have to exist for CRJ2 CRJ7 CRJ9 & ERJ175.
This means there are more training events and more line checks in order to fly the line than a company like AW.
It’s simply not an apples to apples comparison.
OO has to have instructors for 2 types, and then within the CRJ, there is an additional 700-900 training event that has to happen.
LCA groups have to exist for CRJ2 CRJ7 CRJ9 & ERJ175.
This means there are more training events and more line checks in order to fly the line than a company like AW.
It’s simply not an apples to apples comparison.
11-03-2021 | 04:01 PM
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this is true that it takes more, the thing is airline pilots can only fly one thing at a time. The amount of resources is the same to take a person from zero to hero regardless of number of fleets. The only thing that takes a little more resources is when someone upgrades into a new fleet, this take more sim time and ground school, but OE is the same regardless. Also Skywest has sim slots that go completely un-used right now while other companies have zero sim availability. Everyone else is hitting a wall with sim availability cause Skywest bought it all with no ability to use it all (smart move)
I don’t know where you’re getting this information from, but it is 100%, without a doubt, incorrect.
11-05-2021 | 04:30 PM
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121 Pilots aren’t interchangeable parts even in a single type airline. Both line check airmen and captains are a critical resource that can’t be renewed quickly. captains take about 18 months to grow minimum
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
Last edited by ZeroTT; 11-05-2021 at 04:54 PM.
11-06-2021 | 07:06 AM
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121 Pilots aren’t interchangeable parts even in a single type airline. Both line check airmen and captains are a critical resource that can’t be renewed quickly. captains take about 18 months to grow minimum
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
If, as cited, air Wisconsin is losing 10% of the list monthly, they will lose all their captains in 10 months. Assuming they upgrade everyone on property that’s left and backfill with fo’s it will be 8 months before they can start a trickle of captain production again.
game over. None of these mass hire rates are remotely sustainable for attrition
11-07-2021 | 04:02 PM
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According to 121.439, landing currency can be reestablished under the supervision of a check airman, and this can be accomplished in the airplane or sim. My understanding is no, you don’t need to be current to start IOE.
https://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_g...lookup/121.439
I reserve the right to be mistaken in my interpretation of regs at any time.
https://rgl.faa.gov/regulatory_and_g...lookup/121.439
I reserve the right to be mistaken in my interpretation of regs at any time.
11-08-2021 | 07:25 AM
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11-08-2021 | 10:24 AM
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More than likely, when places like GoJet get shut down, the majority of the pilots end up at the bottom of the seniority list at another regional. Hate to say it, but it is a contract carrier and not a wholly-owned regional.
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