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Old 07-31-2007, 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by plasticpi View Post
My entire point is that you are assuming that they are "eagerly striving to screw the rest of us" when you don't know the guy. It's not your "duty" to deny a ride to a complete stranger.

It's these kinds of comments that lead me to believe that you are a "this is my airplane... you're just here to help" kind of captain that I hate flying with.
No I'm not.

I lived through the fallout from freedom A over at mesa, so in my case it's less about duty and more about resentment for what the gojet mentality is all about.

Even though you can't learn from the experiences of others, perhaps someday you'll get hosed in a similar manner, and then you'll understand.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ScaryKite View Post
I am going to make a few points here:

A.) your an idiot
B.) Hulas created GoJet out of spite
C.) A Master Seniority List would be a disaster
and D.) your an idiot
Outside of short term dissagreements with pilots why would you consider a master sniority list a bad idea? RAH has one.

Secondly you can't call someone an idiot and not spell you're right.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:37 PM
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Last I heard and checked Gojet pilots have a better compensation and workrules that was negotiated by their union. Which is even better than some of the branded regionals out there. If most of you UAL carrier's look at the monthly report's that are released by UAL, Gojet has in most case's smoked SKW, Mesa, CHQ, COLGAN and SHUTTLE. We hate to admitt it but Gojet does have a very good business plan model. We bash the flying group at Gojet but those gojetters have stood up to Hulas and have made life better for themselves. DO major carrier's care about Gojet.......NO! I will never understand why Hulas and the management at TSH created Gojet and override the TSA pilot's only to give the gojetters are better QOL. TSA and Gojet need a master senority list...bottom line. My question is Gojet making that much of a profit for them to be reward while TSA pilots still get treated like crap, yet still owned by the same holding company.
Unbelievably, this is only the second-most stupidly naive post in this thread.

Nobody has offered any details about this supposed new "contract" GoJet pukes have, but I'd bet a round for all of APC they still fly 700s for less compensation with poorer work rules than Expressjet, AWAC, and Chautauqua have for 50 seaters.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
Outside of short term dissagreements with pilots why would you consider a master sniority list a bad idea? RAH has one.

Secondly you can't call someone an idiot and not spell you're right.
But then, your defense would have been more solid had you spelled disagreements correctly.
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Old 07-31-2007, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
Unbelievably, this is only the second-most stupidly naive post in this thread.

Nobody has offered any details about this supposed new "contract" GoJet pukes have, but I'd bet a round for all of APC they still fly 700s for less compensation with poorer work rules than Expressjet, AWAC, and Chautauqua have for 50 seaters.
Probably flame bait.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:00 PM
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But then, your defense would have been more solid had you spelled disagreements correctly.
This is a website for pilots, not for secretaries. Writing and grammar arent what is important in what we do for a living. What is important, is keeping it right side up when you get the cut at V1. Two different skill sets entirely.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:03 PM
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All the same, if you can be a good pilot and write well, wouldn't you rather have that?

Besides, how are you ever going to make it into upper management if you can't?

The other thing is I was mainly just razzing TD, who seems to pride himself on grammar and such.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by SharkAir View Post
All the same, if you can be a good pilot and write well, wouldn't you rather have that?

Besides, how are you ever going to make it into upper management if you can't?

The other thing is I was mainly just razzing TD, who seems to pride himself on grammar and such.
Well, if you were just busting the guys balls, OK then. That puts it in a whole different catagory then. Most guys I know that are in management would be in a tough spot if their spellcheck didnt work.
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter View Post
Last I heard and checked Gojet pilots have a better compensation and workrules that was negotiated by their union. Which is even better than some of the branded regionals out there. If most of you UAL carrier's look at the monthly report's that are released by UAL, Gojet has in most case's smoked SKW, Mesa, CHQ, COLGAN and SHUTTLE. We hate to admitt it but Gojet does have a very good business plan model. We bash the flying group at Gojet but those gojetters have stood up to Hulas and have made life better for themselves. DO major carrier's care about Gojet.......NO! I will never understand why Hulas and the management at TSH created Gojet and override the TSA pilot's only to give the gojetters are better QOL. TSA and Gojet need a master senority list...bottom line. My question is Gojet making that much of a profit for them to be reward while TSA pilots still get treated like crap, yet still owned by the same holding company.
as of july1, they had no contract. that means FARs are the work rules.

6 day trips, check

block only, check

24hr rest (not a calendar day) at an outstation then another 6 day trip, check

pay scale equal to TSA's, check (the rates listed here are rounded to the nearest doller, 1st year FOs make about $.25 an hour more than i did at TSA)
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Old 07-31-2007, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by btwissel View Post
as of july1, they had no contract. that means FARs are the work rules.

6 day trips, check

block only, check

24hr rest (not a calendar day) at an outstation then another 6 day trip, check

pay scale equal to TSA's, check (the rates listed here are rounded to the nearest doller, 1st year FOs make about $.25 an hour more than i did at TSA)
If the work and pay is that bad, what is the attrition like? With all the work out there right now, what are these folks thinking by staying at Gojet. They have recurring ad out for F/O's. They have called me 3 times to ask about CA position.
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