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Old 07-31-2007, 06:18 AM
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TD, it's a little early to be drunk posting....
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:30 AM
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TD, it's a little early to be drunk posting....
Guess we don't share the same point of view. I don't want someone who takes the first jet he's offered then turns around and jumps ship a few months later trying to talk down to someone else doing the same. Not saying they aren't people too and aren't welcome at the dinner table, except POPA he's a massive douche'. They just don't need to be the ones giving the speech or taking the actions.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:37 AM
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POPA he's a massive douche'.
"John Edward" massive or "Glenda the Giant Douche" massive?
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777 View Post
Oh yeah, this whole thing about "personal politics" and the jumpseat...GUESS WHAT? The JS is not your god-given right, it is a professional courtesy extended in the spirit of pilot brotherhood, so yes it is perfectly acceptable and is in fact your duty to not extend the privilege to those who eagerly strive to *******w the rest of us!
My entire point is that you are assuming that they are "eagerly striving to screw the rest of us" when you don't know the guy. It's not your "duty" to deny a ride to a complete stranger.

It's these kinds of comments that lead me to believe that you are a "this is my airplane... you're just here to help" kind of captain that I hate flying with.
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:39 AM
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"John Edward" massive or "Glenda the Giant Douche" massive?
Bobby Hill to the T
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Old 07-31-2007, 06:45 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
I'm The other day a guy jumped on and went to the back in JFK without telling us. We were weight limited and had to remove some bags. We never knew he was there. That really got on my bad side. He was a GoJetter.
That's the GoJetter way.. They know if they let someone know they are there, they won't be there long..

We used to get a GoJetter all the time, same kid, over and over who would show up and hide his badge and not say a word...
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Old 07-31-2007, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by ToiletDuck View Post
Just people running to what job hired them first. Big case of SJS.
Most pilots here that were hired in the early 70s to early 90s may tell you they took whatever flying job they could get their hands on when they were first starting out. The bottom line was to build up time & get experience and I'm assuming that's still the case these days; is for me. Someone that has no experience in 121, no jet time, no turbine with only piston ME doesn't have a whole lot of room to be picky, in my opinion. Aside from the airlines you'll get "listed" by working with, why not take the first job that's offered? It might be the only one offered to you for a long while. But times have changed drastically since the 70s, 80s and 90s to the point where you can almost write you own ticket, picking and choosing your job at whatever regional you like. I wouldn't say that someone who wants to build time and start from the bottom (like everyone else had to do anyway) has a case of SJS. That's a new term for me but I think I've got the just of it. I'm not grilling or roasting here, just sharing my thoughts, Duck.
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Old 07-31-2007, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BoilerUP View Post
This is exactly what GoJet pilots did. They accepted employment flying a 70 seat jet for lesser compensation and workrules at a non-union carrier than TSA ALPA pilots flying a 50 seat jet. They empowered Hulas' wipsaw and further degraded the compensation and quality of life of small jet pilots, setting an extremely dangerous precedent in the regional industry.

At the point you're at, more education than pontificating would benefit you greatly.
Last I heard and checked Gojet pilots have a better compensation and workrules that was negotiated by their union. Which is even better than some of the branded regionals out there. If most of you UAL carrier's look at the monthly report's that are released by UAL, Gojet has in most case's smoked SKW, Mesa, CHQ, COLGAN and SHUTTLE. We hate to admitt it but Gojet does have a very good business plan model. We bash the flying group at Gojet but those gojetters have stood up to Hulas and have made life better for themselves. DO major carrier's care about Gojet.......NO! I will never understand why Hulas and the management at TSH created Gojet and override the TSA pilot's only to give the gojetters are better QOL. TSA and Gojet need a master senority list...bottom line. My question is Gojet making that much of a profit for them to be reward while TSA pilots still get treated like crap, yet still owned by the same holding company.
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Old 07-31-2007, 10:25 AM
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Last I heard and checked Gojet pilots have a better compensation and workrules that was negotiated by their union. Which is even better than some of the branded regionals out there. If most of you UAL carrier's look at the monthly report's that are released by UAL, Gojet has in most case's smoked SKW, Mesa, CHQ, COLGAN and SHUTTLE. We hate to admitt it but Gojet does have a very good business plan model. We bash the flying group at Gojet but those gojetters have stood up to Hulas and have made life better for themselves. DO major carrier's care about Gojet.......NO! I will never understand why Hulas and the management at TSH created Gojet and override the TSA pilot's only to give the gojetters are better QOL. TSA and Gojet need a master senority list...bottom line. My question is Gojet making that much of a profit for them to be reward while TSA pilots still get treated like crap, yet still owned by the same holding company.
I beg to differ there, buddy...I haven't seen anything on paper that shows GJT "smoking" other United operators. I am also fairly confident that not only are there no plans by United to give them more flying or aircraft, but they are even losing a few routes to TSA...CVG, for example.
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Old 07-31-2007, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Jetrecruiter View Post
Last I heard and checked Gojet pilots have a better compensation and workrules that was negotiated by their union. Which is even better than some of the branded regionals out there. If most of you UAL carrier's look at the monthly report's that are released by UAL, Gojet has in most case's smoked SKW, Mesa, CHQ, COLGAN and SHUTTLE. We hate to admitt it but Gojet does have a very good business plan model. We bash the flying group at Gojet but those gojetters have stood up to Hulas and have made life better for themselves. DO major carrier's care about Gojet.......NO! I will never understand why Hulas and the management at TSH created Gojet and override the TSA pilot's only to give the gojetters are better QOL. TSA and Gojet need a master senority list...bottom line. My question is Gojet making that much of a profit for them to be reward while TSA pilots still get treated like crap, yet still owned by the same holding company.

I am going to make a few points here:

A.) your an idiot
B.) Hulas created GoJet out of spite
C.) A Master Seniority List would be a disaster
and D.) your an idiot
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