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Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
(Post 1167311)
And to every person who says pilots should speak their mind. There's a long history of G7 employees running to their superiors every time a TSA employee "speaks their mind" to a pilot/FA etc. Then all hell breaks loose (terminations/suspensions).
How about having some class and maintaining a bit of professionalism? I wonder how many of the whiners here on APC ever had their a$$es kicked once or twice for running their yap? Let alone suspensions and terminations... The world isn't fair. Do your job, live your life, load your gun, and hug your kids, it will all be over soon enough... |
Originally Posted by Embraego
(Post 1167268)
Incorrect.Compass was created because NWA wanted to get around a scope clause in the pilot contract.NWA said they would allow a limited number of guys to fly these planes , as long as the CP would be able to flow up, but more importantly that NWA guys would be able to flow down and still have jobs in the event of a furlough situation. Fast forward, the flow is gone but Compass is still flying for Delta.
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Originally Posted by ddd333
(Post 1167329)
How about having some class and maintaining a bit of professionalism?
Most of us have shown class and professionalism by not supporting a scumbag operation like gojet. |
Unbelievable. I really think that this is quite misunderstood at the new hire level. I'm sure you're bidding on the 900 flying for colgan and this flying will be at or below your 700 compensation level with way below contract level on top of that. I've heard first hand from G7 pilots say that "the writing is on that wall" personally for TSA pilots. You've definitely shown your professionalism thank you very much. BTW coming from a furloughed united pilot... I expect nothing but the best.
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Originally Posted by Embraego
(Post 1167268)
Incorrect.Compass was created because NWA wanted to get around a scope clause in the pilot contract.NWA said they would allow a limited number of guys to fly these planes , as long as the CP would be able to flow up, but more importantly that NWA guys would be able to flow down and still have jobs in the event of a furlough situation. Fast forward, the flow is gone but Compass is still flying for Delta.
It didn't always have 'better' pay rates. None of you mentioned freedom. |
Originally Posted by Embraego
(Post 1167073)
Inform me then.
And after that: Please explain how Compass is no different than Gojets. Please explain how Freedom Airlines was no different than Gojets The only thing I'm seeing different is the union representation-GJ had none.
Originally Posted by Sponge14
(Post 1167081)
From an outsider looking in, that's all it appears to be: a bunch of pro-union pilots ****ed that there exists an airline without ALPA representation.
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I am hearing that Gojet is loosing it's back on the DCI flying. The business plan of bidding flying at a loss in the attempt to expand their flying, and in time, renegotiate the contract to a profitable level, has proven to be a short term boom and a long term disaster. I wouldn't be surprised to see this operation experience the same fate as that of Freedom and Mesa.
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Originally Posted by skigambia
(Post 1167527)
I am hearing that Gojet is loosing it's back on the DCI flying. The business plan of bidding flying at a loss in the attempt to expand their flying, and in time, renegotiate the contract to a profitable level, has proven to be a short term boom and a long term disaster. I wouldn't be surprised to see this operation experience the same fate as that of Freedom and Mesa.
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Originally Posted by johnso29
(Post 1167453)
No, you're incorrect. You do realize I am a pre merger NWA pilot, yes? Compass was created while NWA was in bankruptcy. Bankruptcy was the leverage that Steenland had to create it. And the flow up is still intact for those who were on the property before the sale to TranStates Holdings. The Flow Down still exists as well, becuase if it's dissolved Delta management must remove 76 seaters from the DCI fleet. That was ALPA that negotiated that. And they did it in while in bankruptcy negotiations. That flow down saved pilots from bring furloughed in 2008. And I did mention Freedom. I said they don't exist anymore. Plus, most didn't think kindly of Freedom pilots when it was around.
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Originally Posted by Positive_Rate
(Post 1167477)
I know I'm feeding the troll(s) here, but...
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