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Old 06-19-2013 | 11:48 AM
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What a bunch of over reacting pansies...
We're talking about "its" applying to and working for G7. Would you expect anything less?
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Old 06-26-2013 | 08:11 AM
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Ok, I'm seriously not trolling on this one. I have to ask. In this current climate why would ANYONE go to G7? Pretty much all regionals are hiring, so if you want that STL or ORD base, there are choices with better contracts/pay/QOL and no stigma. Their pay and work rules are pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Why would you go there over anywhere else????
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Ok, I'm seriously not trolling on this one. I have to ask. In this current climate why would ANYONE go to G7? Pretty much all regionals are hiring, so if you want that STL or ORD base, there are choices with better contracts/pay/QOL and no stigma. Their pay and work rules are pretty much the bottom of the barrel. Why would you go there over anywhere else????
Because it's every man for HIMSELF. We're all scrambling over each other to claw our way to the top of seniority lists no matter who we hurt or what values we reject in the process. G? bypassed a lot of senior TSA pilots so that younger ones who just couldn't wait could step on them on their way to the top. A lot of guys don't get it, they think it's one airline undercutting another...not true, it was an IN HOUSE gutting. I know this is a generalization, but it was junior pilots finding a way to step over the guys who stuck it out and it also allowed the 'new' company to pay lower wages for another contract period. It's good that it gave furloughed United pilots a place to go, but once they leave do you think they really care about who they left behind? They blame the regionals for their furloughs...
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Because it's every man for HIMSELF. We're all scrambling over each other to claw our way to the top of seniority lists no matter who we hurt or what values we reject in the process. G? bypassed a lot of senior TSA pilots so that younger ones who just couldn't wait could step on them on their way to the top. A lot of guys don't get it, they think it's one airline undercutting another...not true, it was an IN HOUSE gutting. I know this is a generalization, but it was junior pilots finding a way to step over the guys who stuck it out and it also allowed the 'new' company to pay lower wages for another contract period. It's good that it gave furloughed United pilots a place to go, but once they leave do you think they really care about who they left behind? They blame the regionals for their furloughs...

I mean more about guys NOW. I understand that the original d-bags were in it to score a windfall for themselves regardless of who they hosed in the process... But now guys are signing on to the bottom of a list at an airline that's worse than any of the competitors... I mean, there's (as far as I can tell) no upside, yet people are still doing it... I honestly want to know what those people are thinking.
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Ok, I'm seriously not trolling on this one. I have to ask. In this current climate why would ANYONE go to G7?
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I worked at Comair for 6 years. We were what most would consider a "top notch" regional. If that is even a thing..... After watching all of my "pears" flying around CA tail numbers I started to think. We are contractors at the regional level. Our companies bid on flying and whoever is lowest wins. Why on earth would I go to a regional that has no chance of winning any new flying. I tried to do it "right" the first time. If I tried it again that would make me insane.
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The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. I worked at Comair for 6 years. We were what most would consider a "top notch" regional. If that is even a thing..... After watching all of my "pears" flying around CA tail numbers I started to think. We are contractors at the regional level. Our companies bid on flying and whoever is lowest wins. Why on earth would I go to a regional that has no chance of winning any new flying. I tried to do it "right" the first time. If I tried it again that would make me insane.
Old 06-26-2013 | 10:02 AM
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Think of it this way. You are playing a video game. You are on level 6. It was super hard to get that far. Your friends come over and think that it would be a good idea to pull the plug on your game before you have a chance to save it. You have a choice. Plug it back in and start all over or look online for a code that will restore your levels. Who here is playing all 6 levels again?
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Originally Posted by 8hourrule
Think of it this way. You are playing a video game. You are on level 6. It was super hard to get that far. Your friends come over and think that it would be a good idea to pull the plug on your game before you have a chance to save it. You have a choice. Plug it back in and start all over or look online for a code that will restore your levels. Who here is playing all 6 levels again?
Not exactly the best analogy. Replaying the video game levels is fun.
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