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Old 08-30-2016 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2014
Ladies and gents, this is the employer you work for or looking into working for. I worked there and it's been years since but things hasn't changed and will never change. "Keeping your head down" beware of these words. If people have to say that about an employer, then you do not want to be there. Sounds like a POW camp. Below its just one of many other cases I found.

http://www.iasd.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/opinions/412cv378_0913.pdf

"According to South’s Petition, his wife fell and injured herself on March 10, 2010. The injury required surgery, which was scheduled for May 7, 2010. On April 21, 2010, South submitted paperwork to GoJet to request leave from May 7 through May 15, 2010, to care for his wife under the Family and Medical Leave Act (FMLA), 29 U.S.C. § 2601 et seq. The completed paperwork, including the physicians findings, was submitted to GoJet on April 30, 2010. On May 4, 2010, Chief Pilot Captain Dennis Craig (Craig), South’s supervisor, called South and asked him to reconsider taking FMLA leave because GoJet was short on pilots. On May 5, 2010, Craig informed South that his request for FMLA leave was denied because he did not make his request thirty days prior to taking leave and he did not earn sixty percent of his salary over the previous twelve months. Subsequently, South called in sick for the days he had previously requested FMLA leave.
On May 13, 2010, Craig directed South to report to his office in St. Louis, Missouri, for a meeting that would be held on May 14, 2010. South did not show up for the May 14 meeting. Craig thereafter terminated South’s employment and sent him a termination letter to that effect."
Mark South was **** Up. Flew with the guy twice and he deserved to get canned. Worst damn pilot I have ever had a misfortune of flying with.
I personally told the chief pilot that this person does not belong in the airplane and shortly after he got canned.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Xelectro
Mark South was **** Up. Flew with the guy twice and he deserved to get canned. Worst damn pilot I have ever had a misfortune of flying with.
I personally told the chief pilot that this person does not belong in the airplane and shortly after he got canned.
There ya go gents. This is what you have to look forward to. A good pilot group would help you instead of throwing you under the buss when your family might be depending on you financially, medically, and emotionally. And a good chief pilot, captain and union would offer the pilot more training. After all, it was the chief pilot's responsibility for his training. I am done posting here, what a POS group.
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Old 08-30-2016 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2014
There ya go gents. This is what you have to look forward to. A good pilot group would help you instead of throwing you under the buss when your family might be depending on you financially, medically, and emotionally. And a good chief pilot, captain and union would offer the pilot more training. After all, it was the chief pilot's responsibility for his training. I am done posting here, what a POS group.
What I thought when I read his post was, doesn't the union have a pro standards committee? And this yahoo goes straight to the chief pilot? GoJet has some serious problems.
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Old 08-31-2016 | 04:27 AM
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I was at TSA when GoJet was formed. However, I left TSA altogether. At that time, TSA was a terrible place to work and I heard that GoJet wasn't any better.
I find that all regional airlines seem to be alike. At my present airline, we had one or two get disciplinary action over medical conditions they were unaware of.
Look at Mesa, they fired a pilot who was later diagnosed with a medically disqualifying sleep disorder. Regional airlines are no garden of Eden anywhere you go. Like stated before, it's best to go in, stay under the radar. Get your time and get out.
Fast upgrade? There has to be a reason if it isn't growth. And usually it's high turnover. As for signing bonuses, paying for commuter hotels and huge incentives for picking up open time means they're getting desperate for pilots to staff those planes.
Wherever one wants to apply and go to work, just make an informed decision.
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Old 08-31-2016 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Junkyard Dog
I was at TSA when GoJet was formed. However, I left TSA altogether. At that time, TSA was a terrible place to work and I heard that GoJet wasn't any better.
I find that all regional airlines seem to be alike. At my present airline, we had one or two get disciplinary action over medical conditions they were unaware of.
Look at Mesa, they fired a pilot who was later diagnosed with a medically disqualifying sleep disorder. Regional airlines are no garden of Eden anywhere you go. Like stated before, it's best to go in, stay under the radar. Get your time and get out.
Fast upgrade? There has to be a reason if it isn't growth. And usually it's high turnover. As for signing bonuses, paying for commuter hotels and huge incentives for picking up open time means they're getting desperate for pilots to staff those planes.
Wherever one wants to apply and go to work, just make an informed decision.
You have more details about the Mesa example? Was this the Hawaii pilots that both fell asleep?
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Old 08-31-2016 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by iFlyRC
You have more details about the Mesa example? Was this the Hawaii pilots that both fell asleep?
Yes it was. The CA claimed he was subsequently diagnosed of having sleep apnea and had fallen asleep. Not sure what happened to the FO.
Even at my airline we had one who was downgraded for sleep apnea as well.
The regional airline business is no garden of Eden. That's why I say get your time and get out. Those of us still at regionals, I'm sure are trying to get out.
So far, I haven't really tried hard enough until recently
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Old 08-31-2016 | 05:57 PM
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I believe the FO was also let go. I think most people assume that it is easy to leave the regionals and go to an LCC or cargo. They are in for a rude awakening once they actually try to leave.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Einstein2014
I just googled "lawsuits against Gojet " and three different one showed up. I stopped scrolling but I am sure there are more. Yet, people will still go there.

Did you google Delta, Southwest, American, United, FedEx or UPS?
They typically have dozens and dozens of lawyers in their legal departments fighting lawsuits.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 05:41 AM
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As far as any regional killing your opportunities at a major - do you think the majors really care about which regional you came from?

After adjusting for the difference in size amongst the regionals you're 2.2x more likely to get hired at United if you were at GoJets vs if you were at SkyWest.
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Old 09-01-2016 | 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Sliceback
As far as any regional killing your opportunities at a major - do you think the majors really care about which regional you came from?

After adjusting for the difference in size amongst the regionals you're 2.2x more likely to get hired at United if you were at GoJets vs if you were at SkyWest.
Slice, I think the point they're making is that you're more likely to have a punitively manufactured trashing of your training records at a place like GoJets than at Skywest, even if one were to accept at face value the idea the former would get you to mainline quicker. That's what people are saying. Furthermore, if you are of the opinion such a behavior is an unfounded conspiracy theory by people who "can't hack it" in the industry to deflect from their shortcomings, and that such tactics don't occur in real life, then I guess there's nothing else to argue. We'll simply have to agree to disagree.

I have no dog in this fight other than to say I don't give a place the benefit of the doubt when USERRA lawsuits are involved. I don't care how quickly you can get a civilian TPIC, you don't conspire against guard/reservists with their own military service. They can't possibly be that stupid, unless they're so dirty that they figure it's a matter of what are the odds a McWage laborer will take the time and effort to follow through with formal lawsuit. Essentially a textbook tactic from an insurance company playbook.
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