GoJet Airlines - The Real Deal
#71
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From: 757
I'll say it again, Mesa is one of the best regionals to work for if you look beyond pay and benefits. Yes, those are hard pills to swallow, but the low pay for me at 4 year CA pay is better than what I would be getting elsewhere if still an FO. The medical insurance I have to pay for through the exchange IS eating a large portion of my pay check, I am basically paying two mortgages.
http://www.airlinepilotforums.com/re...ml#post2180757
Look man, I've seen you try to slam G7 and compare it to Mesa in many threads. Then just now you say all you really know about G7 is from what others tell you... If you want to compare contracts, then let's compare contracts. We can go line by line if ya want. As far as training, I personally feel we have an excellent training staff. Just like most other regionals, our training is through Flight Safety. In the last three classes, just over 40 people passed and 3 washed out. As fas as those that were complaining about the new hire bonus; the bonus was taken out when the new contract was ratified. Within the past few weeks the company reinstated it. If a recruiter told you that you would receive the bonus, then they messed up, but that wouldn't be the first time a recruiter messed at any regional...
Overall, GoJet has treated me as well as I could expect. I'm not painting it as the best place, nor am I saying it's the worst. Come in, get your upgrade, keep your nose clean and get out. In the last 5 months, 4 to FedEx, 3 to United, a couple to Spirit, Frontier and Jet Blue and a 1, maybe 2 to Delta ( could've been told about the one person twice.). Since February, I've moved up over 120 spots on a 580 pilot roster. I'm a line holding, direct entry captain. Last mo was all but 1 commutable line with 16 days off, 77hrs credit.. I'm thinking this is a fine place to hang my hat for now...
So if ya want to dig up old news about, then here is some good reading for ya as well...
Mesa Air Group Loses Battle with Delta, and US Airways Must be Smiling - CBS News
Hawaiian Airline Sues Mesa Over Predatory Pricing - Law360
United Airlines Sues Mesa Air Group Over Airplanes (Part II) - CBS News
#72
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I always laugh at these gojet threads, because most of the guys who trash gojet either didn't fly there or didn't study. They gave me an opportunity and I used it to move on to a major, and you need to keep that in mind when you're looking at regionals. Don't become a lifer. There's a fast upgrade and while some of the check airmen/training staff leave a bit to be desired, I got what I expected, upgraded quickly (just study a lot), and moved on. There are a lot of great people there and the new contract is a lot better than what I had. I've never met anyone in all these years of commuting that was nasty to me because I came from gojet. There's no stigma except for on these boards where guys with no experience with gojet rant about it. I understand if you were one of the few to jump ship in the beginning, but for the more recent guys it's water under the bridge. So here comes more gojet bashing, but for those of you considering it, it's really not that bad as far as regionals are concerned, and if you go into it with the right mentality you'll do fine and move on. End rant.
#73
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No correlation exist between the amount of time you study your course material and the fact that Randy Bratcher and Brad Sargent are racist and are compelled to publicly express not only this form of discrimination but also that as it relates to the service members and the obligations they have toward the United States.
As described in the case v. GoJet Airlines, LLC in the United States District Court Eastern District of Missouri Eastern Division.
In that June 7, 2016 phone call, Mr. Bratcher stated that he did not believe Plaintiff was in the military, and questioned why Plaintiff was taking leave from work. In response, Plaintiff stated that he was in fact in the Air National Guard, that he was currently on his base for mandatory training, and that his leave was protected by USERRA. Plaintiff also offered to show Mr. Bratcher his military identification card once he returned to work. Mr Bratcher replied by stating to Plaintiff "Don't lecture me on USERRA; I'll bounce you out of here faster than ****." Plaintiff tried to explain his position further, but Mr Bratcher interrupted and stated, "My office, Thursday at noon." and then hung up on Plaintiff.
As described in the case v. GoJet Airlines, LLC in the United States District Court Eastern District of Missouri Eastern Division.
In that June 7, 2016 phone call, Mr. Bratcher stated that he did not believe Plaintiff was in the military, and questioned why Plaintiff was taking leave from work. In response, Plaintiff stated that he was in fact in the Air National Guard, that he was currently on his base for mandatory training, and that his leave was protected by USERRA. Plaintiff also offered to show Mr. Bratcher his military identification card once he returned to work. Mr Bratcher replied by stating to Plaintiff "Don't lecture me on USERRA; I'll bounce you out of here faster than ****." Plaintiff tried to explain his position further, but Mr Bratcher interrupted and stated, "My office, Thursday at noon." and then hung up on Plaintiff.
#74
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No correlation exist between the amount of time you study your course material and the fact that Randy Bratcher and Brad Sargent are racist and are compelled to publicly express not only this form of discrimination but also that as it relates to the service members and the obligations they have toward the United States.
As described in the case v. GoJet Airlines, LLC in the United States District Court Eastern District of Missouri Eastern Division.
In that June 7, 2016 phone call, Mr. Bratcher stated that he did not believe Plaintiff was in the military, and questioned why Plaintiff was taking leave from work. In response, Plaintiff stated that he was in fact in the Air National Guard, that he was currently on his base for mandatory training, and that his leave was protected by USERRA. Plaintiff also offered to show Mr. Bratcher his military identification card once he returned to work. Mr Bratcher replied by stating to Plaintiff "Don't lecture me on USERRA; I'll bounce you out of here faster than ****." Plaintiff tried to explain his position further, but Mr Bratcher interrupted and stated, "My office, Thursday at noon." and then hung up on Plaintiff.
As described in the case v. GoJet Airlines, LLC in the United States District Court Eastern District of Missouri Eastern Division.
In that June 7, 2016 phone call, Mr. Bratcher stated that he did not believe Plaintiff was in the military, and questioned why Plaintiff was taking leave from work. In response, Plaintiff stated that he was in fact in the Air National Guard, that he was currently on his base for mandatory training, and that his leave was protected by USERRA. Plaintiff also offered to show Mr. Bratcher his military identification card once he returned to work. Mr Bratcher replied by stating to Plaintiff "Don't lecture me on USERRA; I'll bounce you out of here faster than ****." Plaintiff tried to explain his position further, but Mr Bratcher interrupted and stated, "My office, Thursday at noon." and then hung up on Plaintiff.
#76
No correlation exist between the amount of time you study your course material and the fact that Randy Bratcher and Brad Sargent are racist and are compelled to publicly express not only this form of discrimination but also that as it relates to the service members and the obligations they have toward the United States.
As described in the case v. GoJet Airlines, LLC in the United States District Court Eastern District of Missouri Eastern Division.
In that June 7, 2016 phone call, Mr. Bratcher stated that he did not believe Plaintiff was in the military, and questioned why Plaintiff was taking leave from work. In response, Plaintiff stated that he was in fact in the Air National Guard, that he was currently on his base for mandatory training, and that his leave was protected by USERRA. Plaintiff also offered to show Mr. Bratcher his military identification card once he returned to work. Mr Bratcher replied by stating to Plaintiff "Don't lecture me on USERRA; I'll bounce you out of here faster than ****." Plaintiff tried to explain his position further, but Mr Bratcher interrupted and stated, "My office, Thursday at noon." and then hung up on Plaintiff.
As described in the case v. GoJet Airlines, LLC in the United States District Court Eastern District of Missouri Eastern Division.
In that June 7, 2016 phone call, Mr. Bratcher stated that he did not believe Plaintiff was in the military, and questioned why Plaintiff was taking leave from work. In response, Plaintiff stated that he was in fact in the Air National Guard, that he was currently on his base for mandatory training, and that his leave was protected by USERRA. Plaintiff also offered to show Mr. Bratcher his military identification card once he returned to work. Mr Bratcher replied by stating to Plaintiff "Don't lecture me on USERRA; I'll bounce you out of here faster than ****." Plaintiff tried to explain his position further, but Mr Bratcher interrupted and stated, "My office, Thursday at noon." and then hung up on Plaintiff.
Before I ask anything further...what's the current status of this case? As a military member, I certainly am thankful my organization is very respectful to the needs of the service and have never once caused me any grief.
Further, who is Mr. Bratcher and Mr. Sargent in the organizational chain for GoJet? Thanks.
#77
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From: 757
Wow.
Before I ask anything further...what's the current status of this case? As a military member, I certainly am thankful my organization is very respectful to the needs of the service and have never once caused me any grief.
Further, who is Mr. Bratcher and Mr. Sargent in the organizational chain for GoJet? Thanks.
Before I ask anything further...what's the current status of this case? As a military member, I certainly am thankful my organization is very respectful to the needs of the service and have never once caused me any grief.
Further, who is Mr. Bratcher and Mr. Sargent in the organizational chain for GoJet? Thanks.
There is a lot more to this story than is being told. Randy is a 20 yr, retired Navy veteran. We also have had many pilots, both CA and FO out on military leave over a year. I'm prior Air Force, and during the one-on-one with Randy, he personally thanked me for my service. To say he has anything against military members, race or gender is absolute nonsense...
#78
Tell me this...do you always go around ratting on your fellow pilots. Did you trying to gain favor and kiss the ring by stabbing another in the back.
I see you didn't try and resolve your issue through the union or pro standards. I guess maybe it's because you can't even spell Professional to find the number.
You are obviously from what we all read here that slime that slithers under the door cracks of management to tell on others because you lack the spine or manhood to speak your peace in their face. You are the TOD!
Last edited by Papa Bear; 09-10-2016 at 03:04 PM.
#79
I flew with him on a couple of occasions. Great guy. Good pilot.
Tell me this...do you always go around ratting on your fellow pilots. Did you trying to gain favor and kiss the ring by stabbing another in the back.
I see you didn't try and resolve your issue through the union or pro standards. I guess maybe it's because you can't even spell Professional to find the number.
You are obviously from what we all read here that slime that slithers under the door cracks of management to tell on others because you lack the spine or manhood to speak your peace in their face. You are the TOD!
Tell me this...do you always go around ratting on your fellow pilots. Did you trying to gain favor and kiss the ring by stabbing another in the back.
I see you didn't try and resolve your issue through the union or pro standards. I guess maybe it's because you can't even spell Professional to find the number.
You are obviously from what we all read here that slime that slithers under the door cracks of management to tell on others because you lack the spine or manhood to speak your peace in their face. You are the TOD!
#80
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From: CRJ
I flew with Mark South many times and never saw a single problem. He was always very professional. Gojet never had a problem with him either nor did the check airman that signed him off. The only problem that Gojet had with him was his needing FMLA leave.
I think that every person who reads this thread can come to their own conclusions about Xelectro. Does anyone want to fly with Xelectro or anyone like him? Just think, you fly a trip and then you have to go sit outside the chief pilot's office for 2 weeks waiting for Xelectro to go make his report.
Please Xcelectro, please publish the entire list of pilots that didn't meet your standards and who you believed you should report to the chief pilot. Wait, I'm sure it would take much less typing if you just publish the list of pilots who actually met your standards, in fact here it is:
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Yesterday Gojet was advertising on this forum that they are hiring Street Captains. What a great opportunity, to fly for an airline that is expanding so fast they need street captains. Wait, they have not expanded. Why on earth would an airline that is not expanding be so short of pilots. I can only think of of 2 more reasons, it is a terrible place to work or Xcelecto makes a lot of trips to the Chief Pilot's office.
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