Oh. You're not female? I sincerely thought you were. Sorry if I was mistaken.

But way to yet again play a victim card. That's really all you've got here. Your posts are extremely boring, even on your other 3 profiles. Get new material.

Strange that I assume the worst of pilots? How long have you been a pilot?

Spend a little time in the union and represent some pilots. You'll be floored at the bad behavior that gets covered up or quietly delay with. I could totally see pilots bending any rule that doesn't involve safety to its limit. Seen it time and time again.

Dude, you sound like a nightmare if I saw you on my roster for the next five days. Elitist much?

I'll tell you why I want to sport a beard:
#1. For many people who shave their face every day including me, it burns like hell, we get ingrown hairs, bumps and other nicks or nearly invisible cuts on the face. That means puss, dangerous bacteria and other nastiness transferred to the O2 masks. A washed beard is much more sanitary. Mask sharing isn't allowed in ANY OTHER CAREER FIELD DUE TO HEALTH RISKS EXCEPT FOR AIRLINE PILOTS because the FAA control cockpit regulations, not OSHA or other Federal Agencies which unilaterally ban mask sharing.
#2. If it is ok for corporate America, it is ok for us.
#3. I'm not in the military. This is just another way for management to make you give up control or submit to them.
#4. The FAA studied this and has said there's no degradation to O2 use. The use of the O2 mask is rare now with the rules change and rarely are they ever used in an emergency situation.
#5. Many if not most foreign airlines allow it.
#6. The public DGAF! Get over your righteousness.

My company manual actually has quite a bit to say about the beard and what you say above is not allowed. It has to be fully grown, so you cannot have a 2 day scruff. It has to be trimmed and neat and the length is limited too.

What’s the reason for wanting to look like an imam or Civil War general? What per-hour pay are you willing to give up?

This whole discussion has been very entertaining. I work at an airline that allows beards. We currently have no real rules on how they should look, but there are rumors that will change soon. Lots of folks prefer the clean shaven look and think it’s unprofessional looking to have a beard. Lots of folks love either wearing a beard or not having to sweat shaving every day. The union didn’t negotiate for beards. The company allowed them as they chose to get out of the personal appearance business. They said it was for equity and inclusion. I suspect grooming standards have simply become too litigious and the juice is no longer worth the squeeze.

Yep, lots of uptight a-holes come out of the woodwork for posts like this.

People with beards don't look at shaved people and self-righteously think they should be forced to look like them.

But some shaved people look at bearded people and self-righteously think they should be forced to look like them.

Only way to explain it is some sort of personality failure.

#1 Is spot on. People who don't have those problems can't understand people who do. They just call you lazy. I shaved every day for six years, and my face never toughened up or "got used to it." So I started growing a beard instead.

#2 This is what I always come back to. Lots of pilots on here complain that beards are unprofessional and that the flying public won't trust a pilot with a beard. However, having a beard didn't seem to stop Steve Jobs from making a billion dollars. No one said "that man looks like a deviant, I don't trust him, and I'm not buying his products." No one cares. And as long as the plane gets from point A to point B, I don't think anyone will care about pilots' beards either. If you asked a random passenger after deplaning a flight to describe the pilots, most of them probably couldn't tell what they even looked like. They're focused on getting to their next gate, or the baggage claim. They're not focused on the crew.

Man that's reaching pretty deep. It's just cultural inertia in the industry, it's not like there's one guy at A4A or FAA HQ who is the facial hair regulator and won't allow it because somebody with a beard beat him up when he was a kid :rolleyes:

I don't care either way, but I tend to roll Don Johnson on my days off so if we're going to allow beards, we need to allow three-day as well. In all seriousness shaving irritates my face if done daily, and a full beard is way too itchy. If you want full beards, don't be a hypocrite about the middle ground.

Correct.

Magenta mullet on a Ho Chi Minh if you're wondering. No personality fails here. Preflight checklist.