OOfff

Robbing the military. Holy ****, is this a real opinion?

FNGFO

Yes, just as real as your willingness to drop money in tbr Trillin dollar range on a rail system that isn’t particularly needed, or wanted outside of people fantasizing of traveling like they do in Europe.

OOfff

I have expressed no advocacy for this program. I was simply trying to show you that big scary numbers really aren’t, and should be understood in context instead of reflexively used to refute a public works proposal.

Mesabah

Hey, I would love to go all electric at my house, it’s significantly safer, and easier to maintain over NG, but it’s too expensive. I might do it anyway, because the ability to control the temperature in each room separately, and have infinite hot water, might be worth the extra $6000 installation cost, and $2000 per year in addition utility bills.

I wish AOC would come out with a bill mandating the price of electricity be below NG, that would help me out.

FNGFO

Suuurrree.

OOfff

I will freely admit that I believe the country should spend a large amount of money on modernizing and improving our infrastructure in the face of climate change rather than throwing it in the garbage by overspending it on the DoD.

This exact proposal? Maybe not. Elements of it? Sure.

Mesabah

Watch this video and realize why AOC has no interest in solving Climate change.

OOfff

Nuclear is one of many reasons I wouldn’t necessarily support this exact proposal.

FNGFO

I know. You didn’t have to say it.

I’d be more worried about DoD spending if we weren’t engaged in two low intensity conflicts, weren’t in the midst of replacing decades old weapon systems in mass and the world had shown at any point that it wouldn’t descend straight into another global conflict without Uncle Sam butting in where he often shouldn’t have to.

Climate change doesn’t concern me. The climate is always changing and one good volcanic eruption puts out as much pollution as man has in any given decade. It’s just hysterics to drive an agenda.

Now, leaving the world a better place for my progeny? That I’ll get behind. But I won’t destroy our economy trying to cram it all in in one decade. High speed rail? Complete pipe dream. Offering incentives to start modernizing and greening up our buildings? Sure. Making cleaner fuels and power production a priority? Yup, that’s feasible. And many More.

But just tossing out seismic shifts in policy and our economy/tax system and cramming them down the country’s throat for nebulous fear driven concepts or because we went to the moon in a decade is non productive and a non starter. As is anything that starts with “...well Europe does it”.

Frankly, the progressive Utopia out west is doing such a bang up job of boondoggling their public works rail project that I would think it would be an object lesson as to why some of these things aren’t feasible even if the technology is.

Extenda

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/climate-qa/which-emits-more-carbon-dioxide-volcanoes-or-human-activities

Is climate.gov fake news? I’m all for having a good debate on all of this but you can’t just shoot out a statement that’s easily disproven with a quick google search.