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Old 06-25-2019 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
Guess what.

Your opinion on how people should dress mean infinitely less than you think.
I said nothing about how someone should or shouldn’t dress. I simply said that there is a time and place for events, and this wasn’t one of them.

And when flying, there is a dress code. Guess you’ve never been in a situation where you had to get ops/sup involved because a pax wore clothing that was taken as offensive. I’ve seen it and been there, done that.
Old 06-25-2019 | 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I’m not trying to force you to change your opinion. I’m trying to get you to realize that you aren’t victimized by people celebrating themselves in public. Celebrations of pride have nothing to do with you, and you aren’t being asked or forced to participate.

Let others do what they want if it doesn’t hurt you. Insulting and denigrating people, however, is hurtful.
Let’s try a thought experiment, instead of drag queens, consider a group in white capes and burning crosses outside the United ticket counter at EWR.

Now, do you still say nobody is victimized by people celebrating themselves in public?

The fabric of our county is built around personal freedom, as distasteful as it may be. Although that’s not what this tread is about.

The point that is being sidestepped is that such divisive displays of personal preference don’t do anything to promote an inclusive workplace.
Old 06-25-2019 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
I said nothing about how someone should or shouldn’t dress. I simply said that there is a time and place for events, and this wasn’t one of them.

And when flying, there is a dress code. Guess you’ve never been in a situation where you had to get ops/sup involved because a pax wore clothing that was taken as offensive. I’ve seen it and been there, done that.
Your opinion about the time and place people should do things has infinitely less importance thank you think. Thankfully.
Old 06-25-2019 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Let’s try a thought experiment, instead of drag queens, consider a group in white capes and burning crosses outside the United ticket counter at EWR.

Now, do you still say nobody is victimized by people celebrating themselves in public?

The fabric of our county is built around personal freedom, as distasteful as it may be. Although that’s not what this tread is about.

The point that is being sidestepped is that such divisive displays of personal preference don’t do anything to promote an inclusive workplace.
Luckily what you are describing is nothing like a brunch where people dance in funny outfits. Also, the KKK does in fact have a 1st amendment right to do their terrible thing, although from a business standpoint airlines don’t normally sponsor such activities.
Old 06-25-2019 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Thor
Let’s try a thought experiment, instead of drag queens, consider a group in white capes and burning crosses outside the United ticket counter at EWR.

Now, do you still say nobody is victimized by people celebrating themselves in public?

The fabric of our county is built around personal freedom, as distasteful as it may be. Although that’s not what this tread is about.

The point that is being sidestepped is that such divisive displays of personal preference don’t do anything to promote an inclusive workplace.
I wonder if there’s a difference between people celebrating themselves and the intrinsic aspect of themselves that was used for millennia to oppress, ostracize, and justify killing them... and the KKK advocating hatred and white supremacy.

Do you really think those are equivalent in any way? One is a positive celebration about oneself and the other is a show of negative hatred of and imagined superiority over others.
Old 06-25-2019 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I wonder if there’s a difference between people celebrating themselves and the intrinsic aspect of themselves that was used for millennia to oppress, ostracize, and justify killing them... and the KKK advocating hatred and white supremacy.

Do you really think those are equivalent in any way? One is a positive celebration about oneself and the other is a show of negative hatred of and imagined superiority over others.
Like I said, there’s a time and place for stuff and an airport terminal isn’t the place.
Old 06-25-2019 | 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
And when flying, there is a dress code. Guess you’ve never been in a situation where you had to get ops/sup involved because a pax wore clothing that was taken as offensive. I’ve seen it and been there, done that.
I don't get your point. You have kicked off a passenger who you thought was a man but was wearing a dress? If you have proof that the EWR drag show had inappropriate clothing that would prevent the person from boarding a plane, than I a with you. The 2 pictures I saw did not break any dress code rules though.
Old 06-25-2019 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by PhantomHawk
Any involvement from Ooff seems to be the canary in the coal mine for a thread’s imminent deterioration.
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Old 06-25-2019 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine
I don't get your point. You have kicked off a passenger who you thought was a man but was wearing a dress? If you have proof that the EWR drag show had inappropriate clothing that would prevent the person from boarding a plane, than I a with you. The 2 pictures I saw did not break any dress code rules though.
No. Simply in response to the quoted post:


“Your opinion on how people should dress mean infinitely less than you think.”
Old 06-26-2019 | 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by OOfff
I wonder if there’s a difference between people celebrating themselves and the intrinsic aspect of themselves that was used for millennia to oppress, ostracize, and justify killing them... and the KKK advocating hatred and white supremacy.

Do you really think those are equivalent in any way? One is a positive celebration about oneself and the other is a show of negative hatred of and imagined superiority over others.
Yes, absolutely in that neither belong at work.
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