Paranoid Pilots?
02-05-2021, 01:27 PM
#171
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Originally Posted by Bluetruth
So instead of waiting for them you'd take the van and let a couple 20 y/o girls wait curbside somewhere like HPN in the middle of the night? All so you can get to the hotel 10 mins sooner than otherwise?
This is the coarsening of society.
This is the coarsening of society.
More importantly, why do you assume every FA is a female, and every pilot is a male. I was an FA before I became a pilot, and my wife is an airline pilot who weighs 105 lbs on a heavy day. Do you want her to defend the 4 male FAs she flew with last time?......
02-05-2021, 02:07 PM
#173
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: Engines Turn Or People Swim
Posts: 39,322
Originally Posted by Bluetruth
So instead of waiting for them you'd take the van and let a couple 20 y/o girls wait curbside somewhere like HPN in the middle of the night? All so you can get to the hotel 10 mins sooner than otherwise?
This is the coarsening of society.
This is the coarsening of society.
Extenuating circumstances may call for a different plan.
02-05-2021, 02:08 PM
#174
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,848
Originally Posted by LNL76
This thread cracks me up. I think many young and old female FAs are tougher than some wuss pilots. Yeah, I said it!
02-05-2021, 02:17 PM
#175
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Joined APC: Dec 2017
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 955
Originally Posted by Bluetruth
So instead of waiting for them you'd take the van and let a couple 20 y/o girls wait curbside somewhere like HPN in the middle of the night? All so you can get to the hotel 10 mins sooner than otherwise?
This is the coarsening of society.
This is the coarsening of society.
We're all equals. They can handle themselves.
02-06-2021, 08:42 AM
#176
It's 5 o'clock somewhere
Joined APC: Oct 2020
Posts: 1,858
Originally Posted by rickair7777
Covering the camera is cheap insurance.
We went to extreme lengths with mil security (I was TS+), don't need to go that far obviously with personal privacy and confidential business (union) info but you'd remiss to totally disregard the risks. I have a good sense as to the scope of what's possible, and it's very nearly anything and everything. Even the best world-class encryption can be and often is compromised by flaws, backdoors, loopholes in the HW or various software. Or plain operator error/negligence.
My brother also related some cases where managers for large companies had actually hired outside "investigators" (hackers) to enable their digital snooping, to further their own personal interests within the organization. These were companies which would not remotely conduct or condone illegal hacking/surveillence, but they had some rogue people.
We went to extreme lengths with mil security (I was TS+), don't need to go that far obviously with personal privacy and confidential business (union) info but you'd remiss to totally disregard the risks. I have a good sense as to the scope of what's possible, and it's very nearly anything and everything. Even the best world-class encryption can be and often is compromised by flaws, backdoors, loopholes in the HW or various software. Or plain operator error/negligence.
My brother also related some cases where managers for large companies had actually hired outside "investigators" (hackers) to enable their digital snooping, to further their own personal interests within the organization. These were companies which would not remotely conduct or condone illegal hacking/surveillence, but they had some rogue people.
02-06-2021, 10:46 AM
#177
Strike averted!
Joined APC: Mar 2015
Position: B737
Posts: 3,656
Originally Posted by Margaritaville
I work for an airline that has management software on all our iPads, and is very open about the fact that anything you do on your iPad can and will be monitored by the company. They claim that they can't activate cameras and microphones, and wouldn't, but most of the pilots here put a deferral sticker over the camera anyhow. Seems like cheap insurance to me. I have zero doubt that this company monitors iPad location and would indirectly use it against a pilot if they needed to.
Our company also offers a crew based app which allows for checking in on a device (vs company computer or phone call). Some people don’t understand that the app uses location services.... I still make the phone call.
I don’t do anything but work related stuff on the company ‘chinery, but I don’t have tape over the camera. Maybe I should LOL.
02-06-2021, 01:19 PM
#178
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
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Posts: 2,850
Originally Posted by CincoDeMayo
Its almost like you smell the thread that has any mention of FAs in it, and come running...
02-07-2021, 05:35 AM
#179
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 1,030
Originally Posted by Pogey Bait
Some people make the easiest job on earth so hard, I have never understood why?
02-07-2021, 06:29 AM
#180
That/It/Thang
Joined APC: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,848
Originally Posted by Knobcrk1
Yes, trouble can happen with them, just don’t say anything dumb and don’t get into a hotel room alone with one, not very complicated.
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