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I'm the same way and try to drop hints during the workday that I'm a slam clicker so i'll be left alone. I don't really see the entire crew hanging out as much as was in the past. I wonder if the expectations are changing. If so, thats welcome to me.

 

Expectations vary based on layover. From NYC to Europe it is (was) common for the crew to get together. From LAX - Asia/Australia it was generally pilots only. Domestically it's a random occurrence based on arrival time and layover length. Priorities in order generally are:
1. Down time
2. Exercise time
3. Crew hangout time

 

Yeah, gotta work out. Slippery slope if you start making exceptions to go drink. Often means I'll join you after dinner for a night cap.

 

I’m a bit of slam clicker by nature and I’m sure a lot of the guys I fly with think that’s all I am. But I do look at the longest overnight of the trip and try to pick that as a night to go out and do something other than just hanging out at the hotel. Some trips, that overnight has nothing around but a Denny’s anyway (which means I don’t do anything). But when I do go out, I’d rather do what I want to do by myself than whatever someone else wants to do with them. I’m perfectly fine as a loaner (a couple decades as single pilot will prepare you for that). That said, if you want to come along for what I want to do, unless you’re a real turd, I’ll probably welcome the company and conversation. I know it sounds selfish. So what, that’s not an insult to me.

That said, back in the interest of the thread topic. I do go out of my way to avoid one on one time with opposite sex even one on one time in public, be it the other pilot or cabin crew (not counting work environment of course). Just better for the marriage if nothing else but also decreases chances for problems with HR.

Paranoid? One man’s paranoia is another man’s “life is better this way”. I just can’t imagine my wife being OK with me hanging out at a bar with “Jennifer” on an overnight.

On the funnier side. My wife skypes me one night while I’m at dinner at a bar and grill with a flight attendant and another pilot. She’s not in the best of moods and hears me indicate there’s three of us there and quips, “oh, you’re out with a flight attendant, aren’t you”. I say “yeah”, and turn the camera toward the flight attendant and say “meet Juan, the flight attendant”. He waves and she moves on. She never once asked about the other pilot. Who was a woman. lol. I guess women can be misogynistic too.

 

Interesting. Just for a different point of view, my wife is a former airline pilot who quit to stay home with the kids. If a woman wants to go down to the bar in a hotel for a burger and a beer and has to go by herself, there can often be unwanted attention from other patrons as they assume she is there to get picked up. I had never given that much thought until she had me look at it from her perspective. As such, if I'm paired with a female FO I always offer to meet for dinner just to spare them some unwanted attention. They can (and often do) say no, but I think it is just being polite and taking care of your crew to offer, especially if you have to leave the hotel to get someplace decent.

 

“Kosher” - Sanctioned by Jewish Talmudic law, ritually pure for use.

Interesting standard you have there for a country that is predominantly goyim. Some would take exceptional offense at repeatedly being asked to justify their offhanded remarks against a minority religious sectarian standard in a secular nation where freedom of religion is a basic right.

Not me though. Pass the salt, but only if it’s Kosher. I’ll get my iodine elsewhere.

 

Not from shellfish I hope ...

 

Back in the day, some women (usually FA's) liked to have a male inspect their room before they went in. There were some instances of people lying in wait to ambush FA's.

 

Times are a changing. I remember “those days” and how innocent the request was and I was always accommodating to help.

Today, not a chance. Have hotel security check for you. Zero chance I set foot in a room with just a member of the opposite sex, plausible deniability. And before LNL comes on here saying “I’m sure you’re nothing special,” it has nothing to do with that and everything to do with the time we live in. And in 2021, escorting a coworker into her room is as risky as innocently calling a FA “dear” or “sweetheart”.

Cancel culture is too real