Paranoid Pilots?
#31
Some devices are more secure than others. But I'm aware of one scheme on a company-owned ipad where the device simply recorded video data and saved it. This was then uploaded during a periodic data-synch process which was a legit component of the business tools installed on the device (this was not an airline).
#32
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Hacking an iGadget or otherwise is nearly impossible and only more possible (though still quite tough) if it has been jail broken by yourself. I can virtually guarantee you no mid-level manager or otherwise at an airline has the ability to get into your company issued gadget and spy on you.
#33
I have flown with a couple people like you mention, but more I’m surprised about how many believe in crazy political conspiracy theories. For a well educated group it’s entertaining to hear some of the stuff these guys come up with. Had one guy tell me he never pays federal income tax from his rental properties because he never agreed to do so in the first place and it’s unconstitutional for the government to make him.
"Utah pilot who fled tax charges is arrested in N.C."
https://www.standard.net/police-fire...c7d97230c.html
#34
Have a link? In any case, one incident that appears incidental doesn't account for the need to be overly paranoid. By all means, protections and language should be in place to prevent accidental or purposeful privacy breaches but I don't think that supports the paranoia some exhibit.
Apple is tighter than MS, but it's by no means airtight.
#35
My brother is a software engineer (I have the background too, haven't used it in decades, but we talk about it). It was a case he told me about. He does enterprise security and they look hard at all the client devices and apps since those are usually the gateway for malicious actors.
Apple is tighter than MS, but it's by no means airtight.
Apple is tighter than MS, but it's by no means airtight.
Back to original post, there also isn't reason to live your life in fear. Don't be an arse and you'll get through this career (and life) just fine. Feel bad for those that hinder their own life experiences and relationships on the off chance something they do will get them in trouble.
#36
Sure, however my point is it doesn't justify the paranoia that some exhibit. There isn't a demonstrated need to cover your camera or remove company devices from meetings. The evidence doesn't support it.
Back to original post, there also isn't reason to live your life in fear. Don't be an arse and you'll get through this career (and life) just fine. Feel bad for those that hinder their own life experiences and relationships on the off chance something they do will get them in trouble.
Back to original post, there also isn't reason to live your life in fear. Don't be an arse and you'll get through this career (and life) just fine. Feel bad for those that hinder their own life experiences and relationships on the off chance something they do will get them in trouble.
We went to extreme lengths with mil security (I was TS+), don't need to go that far obviously with personal privacy and confidential business (union) info but you'd remiss to totally disregard the risks. I have a good sense as to the scope of what's possible, and it's very nearly anything and everything. Even the best world-class encryption can be and often is compromised by flaws, backdoors, loopholes in the HW or various software. Or plain operator error/negligence.
My brother also related some cases where managers for large companies had actually hired outside "investigators" (hackers) to enable their digital snooping, to further their own personal interests within the organization. These were companies which would not remotely conduct or condone illegal hacking/surveillence, but they had some rogue people.
#37
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eces-tape.html
I’ve flown with an FO who wouldn’t even greet an FA as “they’re dangerous”.
Then we have the Union political hacks,
We also have the guy whose sole mission in life is to convince any new hires that the company is out to get them through Scheduling shenanigans.
I’ve flown with an FO who wouldn’t even greet an FA as “they’re dangerous”.
Then we have the Union political hacks,
We also have the guy whose sole mission in life is to convince any new hires that the company is out to get them through Scheduling shenanigans.
#38
#39
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...eces-tape.html
I’ve flown with an FO who wouldn’t even greet an FA as “they’re dangerous”.
Then we have the Union political hacks,
We also have the guy whose sole mission in life is to convince any new hires that the company is out to get them through Scheduling shenanigans.
I’ve flown with an FO who wouldn’t even greet an FA as “they’re dangerous”.
Then we have the Union political hacks,
We also have the guy whose sole mission in life is to convince any new hires that the company is out to get them through Scheduling shenanigans.
I’m inclined to put the tape over my mouth as well when not in the cockpit. Can never be too cautious with this career.
#40
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Do any of you find yourself flying with fellow pilots (CA or FO) who are overly paranoid and think the company/world is out to get them?
Flew with a CA recently who was probably the best pilot I have ever flown with. Was very smooth and flew the plane by the book. Other than his flying and ADM, he was extremely paranoid about everything. Some examples were:
1. Afraid to speak to the FAs. Would only talk when a flight related issue came up. Otherwise, he was convinced they would take something he said the wrong way and report it.
2. Afraid of Pax. Was convinced they had video cameras out and ready to catch any mistake we made and put it on social media. Didn't like making PAs and avoided eye contact in gate area.
3. Afraid of Gate Agents. Was convinced they were writing notes trying to pin any delay on him. Had an extensive notebook to record every move they made and what Zulu time.
4. Afraid of dispatch. If he had to call them, he would never use his name, only the flight number and tail. Not sure why.
Again, he was a fine aviator and I picked up some good techniques from him. I could go on with examples of the paranoia. Just curious if others have had any similar trips. Are pilots just programed to think this way?
Flew with a CA recently who was probably the best pilot I have ever flown with. Was very smooth and flew the plane by the book. Other than his flying and ADM, he was extremely paranoid about everything. Some examples were:
1. Afraid to speak to the FAs. Would only talk when a flight related issue came up. Otherwise, he was convinced they would take something he said the wrong way and report it.
2. Afraid of Pax. Was convinced they had video cameras out and ready to catch any mistake we made and put it on social media. Didn't like making PAs and avoided eye contact in gate area.
3. Afraid of Gate Agents. Was convinced they were writing notes trying to pin any delay on him. Had an extensive notebook to record every move they made and what Zulu time.
4. Afraid of dispatch. If he had to call them, he would never use his name, only the flight number and tail. Not sure why.
Again, he was a fine aviator and I picked up some good techniques from him. I could go on with examples of the paranoia. Just curious if others have had any similar trips. Are pilots just programed to think this way?
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