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01-15-2021 | 06:53 AM

#61

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Originally Posted by rickair7777

Leave it at which home? And then take a couple extra flights to go to that house to get it on my way to work???

In the case of a reserve guy, home may be out of position.

But yeah I never use the thing for anything but work, just sometimes I need to have it with me so can I can take it to work. I'm not even gaming the system but if I have to call in legit sick they don't need any insight into my lifestyle or travels.

The point of my post is, if you're going to play hookie, don't bring evidence. And if you do, don't try to lie your way out of it. Turn it and all data off or run it out of battery.

01-15-2021 | 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ROFF

Either room, but bring your company iPad, remove the tape from camera/mic and record the event.

This ensures double security since the company will be monitoring and thus a witness.

And then they put it on Only Fans...

New revenue stream!

01-15-2021 | 07:14 AM

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They can though. I know of someone that decided not to show up for reserve. They called him for a trip, that he called in sick for. They pinged his iPad and saw it was out of state. They gave him a chance to tell the truth. He lied. They fired him.

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Skeptical of this one, every contract worth its salt (and even ones that aren't) likely have provisions that state EFBs cannot be used for disciplinary action unless criminal activity is suspected.

01-15-2021 | 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by velosnow

Skeptical of this one, every contract worth its salt (and even ones that aren't) likely have provisions that state EFBs cannot be used for disciplinary action unless criminal activity is suspected.

This has happened more then once, not all contacts have caught up with technology. And every instance I know of involved termination for lying.

01-15-2021 | 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by velosnow

Skeptical of this one, every contract worth its salt (and even ones that aren't) likely have provisions that state EFBs cannot be used for disciplinary action unless criminal activity is suspected.

This airline doesn't have a contract, I believe it 100%.

01-15-2021 | 07:44 AM

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This has happened more then once, not all contacts have caught up with technology. And every instance I know of involved termination for lying.

Lying will indeed get you fired and rightfully so, but if someone's contract is lacking they better get in gear. In many cases, firing isn't just for one offense there is usually a trend or history. Always best when you have to remind your Chief Pilot of your name yet again.

01-15-2021 | 07:48 AM

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This airline doesn't have a contract, I believe it 100%.

Well that sucks, what airline doesn't have a contract or at least a working agreement these days? Even OO with its non-union agreement has protections.

01-15-2021 | 08:17 AM

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It’s less nefarious than all of this. In fact it is the pilot who physically gives them their location instead of the opposite.
You wouldn’t log on to the company website from Cancun. Yet the EFB will immediately call home to check for updates.
No pinging required.

01-15-2021 | 08:50 AM

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They also have the ability to look at your travel history, when you checked in through KCM, or the fact that you said I can't make the commute in time for the reserve call out today and they ask where you were yesterday on the first day of your bucket.