Notable developments in the Russo Ukraine War
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Thought I'd try out another thread that has been on my mind. So much has been plastered across the internet that it is easy to miss important developments that actually affect the direction of the war. This is the place to post them as you see them. This is not the place to post well known information about the poor demographic trends of Russia and Ukraine. Nor the place to post blow by blow accounts of battles for towns like Pokrovsk (still not 100% conquered after 18 months).
Some examples of notable developments would be the introduction of fiber optic drones or the Kursk incursion. Operation Spiderweb would have certainly qualified to be included here... but was such a bombshell that it probably deserved its own thread. While Ukraine's campaign against Russian oil continues unabated (another Shadow Fleet tanker was hit today and probably a refinery too), I don't think there is much left to say until a culmination or tipping point is reached.
Anyways, I saw an article a few weeks back that was a revelation, but I didn't think to save it or start a thread at the time. The gist of it was that in the age of drones... defending wide open spaces is now much easier than defending urban areas. As Russians have managed to infiltrate Pokrovsk proper it has proven really, really tough to root them out from buildings and cellars. But crossing open ground in massed armor formations is now pretty much a suicide mission. In light of what the Chechens did to the Russians in Grozny this was a newsflash to me... but actually makes total sense upon further reflection (plus seeing a recent picture of a field absolutely littered with Russian corpses). It turns out that taking Pokrovsk proper may have been the easy part for Russia. Time will tell.
Some examples of notable developments would be the introduction of fiber optic drones or the Kursk incursion. Operation Spiderweb would have certainly qualified to be included here... but was such a bombshell that it probably deserved its own thread. While Ukraine's campaign against Russian oil continues unabated (another Shadow Fleet tanker was hit today and probably a refinery too), I don't think there is much left to say until a culmination or tipping point is reached.
Anyways, I saw an article a few weeks back that was a revelation, but I didn't think to save it or start a thread at the time. The gist of it was that in the age of drones... defending wide open spaces is now much easier than defending urban areas. As Russians have managed to infiltrate Pokrovsk proper it has proven really, really tough to root them out from buildings and cellars. But crossing open ground in massed armor formations is now pretty much a suicide mission. In light of what the Chechens did to the Russians in Grozny this was a newsflash to me... but actually makes total sense upon further reflection (plus seeing a recent picture of a field absolutely littered with Russian corpses). It turns out that taking Pokrovsk proper may have been the easy part for Russia. Time will tell.
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Which is debated to be either a smashing success or a colossal failure. We''re approaching 2 years since the "Spring Offensive", for what?
Meanwhile, the conflict rages on in a war of attrition.
An entire generation of men being wiped out, minute square miles of territory going back and forth, Ukraine looks like Stalingrad.....
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The problem is that a war of attrition favors the country with the most resources. Comparing the population pyramids of Russia and Ukraine… well, there is no comparison.
Lets say the reasonable age for fighting men is between 20 and 55.
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Russia has 32+ million men in that age range.
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Ukraine has maybe 10 million max.
Demographics ain’t destiny but in a war of attrition it’s pretty damn close.
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The problem is that a war of attrition favors the country with the most resources. Comparing the population pyramids of Russia and Ukraine… well, there is no comparison.
Lets say the reasonable age for fighting men is between 20 and 55.
Russia has 32+ million men in that age range.
Ukraine has maybe 10 million max.
Demographics ain’t destiny but in a war of attrition it’s pretty damn close.
Lets say the reasonable age for fighting men is between 20 and 55.
Russia has 32+ million men in that age range.
Ukraine has maybe 10 million max.
Demographics ain’t destiny but in a war of attrition it’s pretty damn close.
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https://www.airandspaceforces.com/ai...g-to-aircraft/
Other than setting a new record for personnel aboard an airborne C-17 that is, which will at least get a footnote in USAF history.
https://www.airandspaceforces.com/ka...t-c-17-record/
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Try some decaf.
OR, if you need it spelled out, the average dumb “I support Ukraine!!!!” American with the Ukraine flag on the social media/front porch thinks that all those billions we keep sending over there will somehow turn the tide and allow the Ukrainians to push the Russians out.
Well, at least for American that ACTUALLY knows that conflict is STILL going on anyway.
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Anyways, here's another development that I've noticed but have not seen anything really written about. A big advantage Ukraine now has vs. Russia is a fairly "secure" rear echelon, i.e. - Western Europe. Because from here on out Russia only has its Far East, with pretty much anything to the west at risk. Lots of examples from American military history of how tough it is to defeat an enemy who has a secure rear echelon. While Ukraine is not capable of laying waste to entire factories or refineries at will, it has been doing a remarkable job of striking what Russia can't defend. It will take time for the effects to compound, but compound they will and the pressure at the seams will keep increasing.
Oh, and another notable development is it looks like the EU is finally going to succeed in slapping down the Belgians and accessing Russia's >$210 billion in sovereign assets parked in Europe. I'll believe it when the funds start to roll, but it sure looks like Ukraine will be set for years.
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Maybe dumb Americans really think Ukraine can push Russia out, there's arguably around 50% of Americans who fall into that general category. I've never expressed much hope for Ukraine to actually push Russia out. What I'm hoping for is that Russia comes apart at the seams. I read an article just the other day that talked about how that becomes increasingly likely the longer this war continues
An often repeated sentiment, "Hope is NOT a strategy/plan". People thought the sanctions, as well as man/material sacrifice the Russians have expended would have come to fruition by NOW.
And yet Russia continues on.....
And yet, Russia continues on.....
Russia continues on.......
Because from here on out Russia only has its Far East, with pretty much anything to the west at risk. Lots of examples from American military history of how tough it is to defeat an enemy who has a secure rear echelon. While Ukraine is not capable of laying waste to entire factories or refineries at will, it has been doing a remarkable job of striking what Russia can't defend. It will take time for the effects to compound, but compound they will and the pressure at the seams will keep increasing.
In the words penned by Geoff Downes and John Wetton (R.I.P.), put into music by the 80's supergroup ASIA, "only time will tell"
Russia continues on.......
#9
It’s just an observation, but there’s times you get so wrapped up in posting/replying that you CANT pick up on sarcasm, tongue it cheek, what have you…..
Try some decaf.
OR, if you need it spelled out, the average dumb “I support Ukraine!!!!” American with the Ukraine flag on the social media/front porch thinks that all those billions we keep sending over there will somehow turn the tide and allow the Ukrainians to push the Russians out.
Well, at least for American that ACTUALLY knows that conflict is STILL going on anyway.
Try some decaf.
OR, if you need it spelled out, the average dumb “I support Ukraine!!!!” American with the Ukraine flag on the social media/front porch thinks that all those billions we keep sending over there will somehow turn the tide and allow the Ukrainians to push the Russians out.
Well, at least for American that ACTUALLY knows that conflict is STILL going on anyway.
#10
Maybe dumb Americans really think Ukraine can push Russia out, there's arguably around 50% of Americans who fall into that general category. I've never expressed much hope for Ukraine to actually push Russia out. What I'm hoping for is that Russia comes apart at the seams. I read an article just the other day that talked about how that becomes increasingly likely the longer this war continues, especially as Russia sacrifices upwards of five soldiers for each Ukrainian one and its future economic potential is strangled by the coming decline of hydrocarbons.
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Anyways, here's another development that I've noticed but have not seen anything really written about. A big advantage Ukraine now has vs. Russia is a fairly "secure" rear echelon, i.e. - Western Europe. Because from here on out Russia only has its Far East, with pretty much anything to the west at risk. Lots of examples from American military history of how tough it is to defeat an enemy who has a secure rear echelon.
Oh, and another notable development is it looks like the EU is finally going to succeed in slapping down the Belgians and accessing Russia's >$210 billion in sovereign assets parked in Europe. I'll believe it when the funds start to roll, but it sure looks like Ukraine will be set for years.
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