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Old 09-15-2008 | 12:28 PM
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i took my instrument the other day. got a 78 on it. the guy at the front desk at meach asked me what my grade was and i told him. he replied a 78 is as goood as a 98. now i know that making a 98 rather than a 78 doesnt the difference in getting a job. but what if it was something else. what if it was your attitude? here is my scenario. im in school to get an associates degree. there is certain work i refuse to do however it will not cost me failing the class. i will get a passing grade and it wont be an a. which obviously will hamper my gpa. well if u put me next to someone with a 5.0 and i have only a 2.0 and i have the better attitude who would get the job? its arguable but in retrospect it is impossible for that employer to know whether i slacked off for that 2.0 or i worked very hard for it. which leaves me with the question. could attitude really and truely be everything?
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Old 09-15-2008 | 12:52 PM
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Your ratings don't say what your score was on an exam.

Your transcript does.

Apples and oranges my friend. I would focus on doing a little better in school. Think of it this way: Would you rather hire the person that will go above and beyond what is required for their customers? Or would you hire the person that does just enough to get by and not draw attention to himself?
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my question is still how can u tell that person didnt work as hard as he could for the lower gpa?
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:06 PM
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i took my instrument the other day. got a 78 on it. the guy at the front desk at meach asked me what my grade was and i told him. he replied a 78 is as goood as a 98. now i know that making a 98 rather than a 78 doesnt the difference in getting a job. but what if it was something else. what if it was your attitude? here is my scenario. im in school to get an associates degree. there is certain work i refuse to do however it will not cost me failing the class. i will get a passing grade and it wont be an a. which obviously will hamper my gpa. well if u put me next to someone with a 5.0 and i have only a 2.0 and i have the better attitude who would get the job? its arguable but in retrospect it is impossible for that employer to know whether i slacked off for that 2.0 or i worked very hard for it. which leaves me with the question. could attitude really and truely be everything?
Another way to look at it is your attitude doesn't spell success for the job. If you accept being a minimalist in school and during training for your exams, than you do not have the drive to study hard enough to pass a type rating or prepare for a major interview that takes months of preparation. At DAL, I believe you need to score a 90-94 on the written exams in the interview to even make to the face-to-face interview. Attitude helps push you to overachieve at what you do. That will get you the job. Lots of passengers I fly think it would be 'cool' to fly a big plane........great attitude, but it won't see them to the job.

Also, unless your 16, try putting some caps at the beginning of your sentences.
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:19 PM
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ill accept that answer. just do as much as i can and either its enough or it isnt. (this is a forum not grammar school)
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
, unless your 16, try putting some caps at the beginning of your sentences.
HAHAHAHHAHA, Delicious!
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:25 PM
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In the immortal words of Judge Smails,

The world needs ditch diggers too.
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:26 PM
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i deserved that.....but it at least have to try
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by normajean21
i deserved that.....but it at least have to try
No one said you are incapable of changing. If you haven't pushed yourself until now, do it. This career is within the reach of many who work hard, endure the sacrifices (I should capitalize that) and push themselves to always be better than the previous day. If you haven't worked hard in school, start now. Trust me, I did fine in college but looking back wished I had studied harder on certain things and drank less beer at times. The beer will always be there. The time to prove yourself won't.

Also, if you want to get to a major you need a 4 year degree. I don't know of any major that hires with less than that.
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Old 09-15-2008 | 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by normajean21
my question is still how can u tell that person didnt work as hard as he could for the lower gpa?
Perception, in this case is as strong as reality. Awfully hard to prove that you worked hard when your GPA is that low.
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