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Old 04-24-2009, 06:35 PM
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I wonder what's going to happen when people realize that this is all a sham?
It's going to get interesting



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Predictions from Earth Day 1970

The following predictions were made during the first Earth Day:
Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for the first Earth Day, wrote, "It is already too late to avoid mass starvation." [13]

Senator Gaylord Nelson, the co-founder of Earth Day, stated, "Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct." [13]

Peter Gunter, a professor at North Texas State University, stated, "... by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." [13]

Paul Ehrlich, author of The Population Bomb, predicted that between 1980 and 1989, 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would starve to death. [13]

Life Magazine wrote, "... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." [13]

Ecologist Kenneth Watt stated, "The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." [13]

Watt also stated, "By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil." [13]
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Predictions from Earth Day 1970

The following predictions were made during the first Earth Day:
Denis Hayes, the chief organizer for the first Earth Day, wrote, "It is already too late to avoid mass starvation." [13]

Senator Gaylord Nelson, the co-founder of Earth Day, stated, "Dr. S. Dillon Ripley, secretary of the Smithsonian Institute, believes that in 25 years, somewhere between 75 and 80 percent of all the species of living animals will be extinct." [13]

Peter Gunter, a professor at North Texas State University, stated, "... by 1975 widespread famines will begin in India; these will spread by 1990 to include all of India, Pakistan, China and the Near East, Africa. By the year 2000, or conceivably sooner, South and Central America will exist under famine conditions.... By the year 2000, thirty years from now, the entire world, with the exception of Western Europe, North America, and Australia, will be in famine." [13]

Paul Ehrlich, author of The Population Bomb, predicted that between 1980 and 1989, 4 billion people, including 65 million Americans, would starve to death. [13]

Life Magazine wrote, "... by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half." [13]

Ecologist Kenneth Watt stated, "The world has been chilling sharply for about twenty years. If present trends continue, the world will be about four degrees colder for the global mean temperature in 1990, but eleven degrees colder in the year 2000. This is about twice what it would take to put us into an ice age." [13]

Watt also stated, "By the year 2000, if present trends continue, we will be using up crude oil at such a rate…that there won’t be any more crude oil." [13]


Great find. These sobering proclamations were read with considerable amusement.
Lord Monckton has done an excellent job of calling the lie when it comes to the current hysteria and proposed "solutions" such as cap and trade. The problem is that every effort is being made to muzzle him because he is interfering with the business plans of some.
Climate change hasn't proved to be very dangerous, but social engineering has killed hundreds of millions in the last century.
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Old 04-26-2009, 11:09 AM
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it is a quote from the chairman of the house committee that is writing global "warming"legislation:

We’re seeing the reality of a lot of the North Pole starting to evaporate, and we could get to a tipping point. Because if it evaporates to a certain point - they have lanes now where ships can go that couldn’t ever sail through before. And if it gets to a point where it evaporates too much, there’s a lot of tundra that’s being held down by that ice cap..”

So said Henry Waxman to NPR
Tavis Smiley . Archives . Rep. Henry Waxman . April 13, 2009 | PBS

Leaving aside the question of whether the calculated global temperature is going up (it's not, it is going down since 2003), and leaving aside the question of whether the polar ice is receding (it's not--see here: http://eva.nersc.no/vhost/arctic-roo..._ice_area.png.
...isn't representative Waxman's statement about the least well thought out collection of non sequitir you've ever heard?

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God help us if that tundra ever gets loose.
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:03 PM
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I noticed that Christopher Monckton is a long time political and business consultant - not a scientist, peer reviewed or otherwise.

Thanks for the good faith input but I will continue to believe in the rigor of peer reviewed science.
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Old 04-26-2009, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
I noticed that Christopher Monckton is a long time political and business consultant - not a scientist, peer reviewed or otherwise.

Thanks for the good faith input but I will continue to believe in the rigor of peer reviewed science.

Quite right, in this respect Lord Monckton and Gore are similar. The difference is that one is using peer reviewed science to illustrate his point and one is trying to force us to buy his product at the point of a gun.
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Satellite feed goes dead before he can say anymore and CNN goes to commercial.

I sat there going "What just happened?" "Did they just cut that guy off?"

Couldn't believe my eyes. Haven't watched CNN since.
Well we can't have people speak their mind that have an opposing view, not can we? Heaven forbid the mainstream media actually report the truth!
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Old 04-27-2009, 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by N2264J View Post
I noticed that Christopher Monckton is a long time political and business consultant - not a scientist, peer reviewed or otherwise.

Thanks for the good faith input but I will continue to believe in the rigor of peer reviewed science.
Where are the reservations when Gore, Waxman, or some of the other true belivers speak? They are not scientists, peer reviewed or otherwise.

Your point is acknowledged, Monckton is not a scientist but he's clearly done his homework. I pay attention to this stuff--I think he's right on the money. Monckton's professional status aside, what about the content of his presentation? What do you think about the material itself? True? False? Don't know? Settled science? I'd be very interested to hear what you think about that?

I'd also be very interested (and I'm not being sarcastic) to read any peer reviewed literature you could provide that showed any of Monckton's points to be off base.

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Originally Posted by ryan1234 View Post
Predictions from Earth Day 1970
It's those darned slide-rule inaccuracies! Forget the floating mantissa...
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