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HIFLYR 12-19-2017 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by cardiomd (Post 2482434)
It is a Saratoga... really slow, and 500 RVR probably was some good vertical visibility (likely 500 ft or greater) to see lights, which is not that bad. If he did it, good for him. I don't think that is necessarily fate-tempting for a light GA aircraft.

What do you mean couldn't talk on the radio?

No offense but you obviously have never landed 600 to 300 rvr before.

Turbosina 12-20-2017 05:39 PM


Originally Posted by HIFLYR (Post 2486189)
No offense but you obviously have never landed 600 to 300 rvr before.

He flies a 182, so I'm guessing you're right.

Cardiomd, do you have a clue what 500 RVR actually looks like? You'd have to be completely out of your mind to try it. I have 6K hours in piston GA and Cat 1 minima are difficult enough, let alone 500 RVR.
. That's below Cat II, and you'd have to be really bored with living to want to try that.

Qotsaautopilot 12-20-2017 08:40 PM

Step one when your single engine quits: pick your nearest suitable landing area.

If it’s 500rvr you cannot complete step one at any point before impact. You shouldn’t ever be there. Everything else is moot. If you are there you had very bad luck with unforecast wx or you are the tool of the day.

The Saratoga pilot is the latter I suspect. Anyone justifying him doing what he was doing should join the tool shed

hilltopflyer 12-21-2017 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot (Post 2487008)
Step one when your single engine quits: pick your nearest suitable landing area.

If it’s 500rvr you cannot complete step one at any point before impact. You shouldn’t ever be there. Everything else is moot. If you are there you had very bad luck with unforecast wx or you are the tool of the day.

The Saratoga pilot is the latter I suspect. Anyone justifying him doing what he was doing should join the tool shed

But with that logic he shouldn't fly imc ever since you can't pick your landing spot if it does fail.

Qotsaautopilot 12-21-2017 06:08 AM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2487103)
But with that logic he shouldn't fly imc ever since you can't pick your landing spot if it does fail.

You can accept some level of risk if there is a measurable ceiling. How much time you want to give yourself when you break out is up to you. 500rvr you have zero options and therefore toolish.

Turbosina 12-21-2017 07:39 AM


Originally Posted by hilltopflyer (Post 2487103)
But with that logic he shouldn't fly imc ever since you can't pick your landing spot if it does fail.

Huh? Flying IMC at 10,000' with a ceiling at 4,000' over flatlands gives you plenty of time to pick that landing spot. The lower the ceiling gets, the higher the risk level.

CoefficientX 12-21-2017 08:01 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2487207)
Huh? Flying IMC at 10,000' with a ceiling at 4,000' over flatlands gives you plenty of time to pick that landing spot. The lower the ceiling gets, the higher the risk level.

Apparently a difficult concept for a few posting here. smh

Dolphinflyer 12-21-2017 08:50 AM


No offense but you obviously have never landed 600 to 300 rvr before.
I think he's a Doctor.

Hold his beer, he can come up with a Bonanza before it gets warm. :D

Truthanator 12-21-2017 09:06 AM


Originally Posted by Slaphappy (Post 2477853)
Tapping your toes in public is rude it's not different than public whistler's. He was being nice I would have been more in your face..

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hilltopflyer 12-21-2017 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by Turbosina (Post 2487207)
Huh? Flying IMC at 10,000' with a ceiling at 4,000' over flatlands gives you plenty of time to pick that landing spot. The lower the ceiling gets, the higher the risk level.

Yes but a 1000' ceiling doesn't give you much time unless you are in the Great Plains. I don't think he should be flying at 500 rvr. That's just stupid


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