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08-26-2018, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
That doesn’t even make sense.
If you can’t get your required duties completed in the time between report and push, then I guess get there earlier. Don’t expect other people to get there earlier than necessary however. I have never met a line pilot who could not get their required duties completed on time outside of possibly day 1 of OE. Reviewing the maintenance log isn’t that time consuming of a process.
If you can’t get your required duties completed in the time between report and push, then I guess get there earlier. Don’t expect other people to get there earlier than necessary however. I have never met a line pilot who could not get their required duties completed on time outside of possibly day 1 of OE. Reviewing the maintenance log isn’t that time consuming of a process.
08-26-2018, 06:04 PM
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The not making sense was in to your reference to various generations. If you want to show up early fine, but do your FOs truly believe that they can show up later? Since you’re setting the example.
08-26-2018, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Skypilotsv1984
The not making sense was in to your reference to various generations. If you want to show up early fine, but do your FOs truly believe that they can show up later? Since you’re setting the example.
Big difference Skypilots1984 in our perspectives regarding F.Os. IMO F/Os aren’t F/Os. They are Captains in training, and treated as such.
08-26-2018, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by captjns
Big difference Skypilots1984 in our perspectives regarding F.Os. IMO F/Os aren’t F/Os. They are Captains in training, and treated as such.
08-26-2018, 11:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Silver02ex
Those FO’s you’re talking about are the ones waiting to upgrade. The ones that washed out of upgrade multiple times and are stuck in the right seat. Also, the ones that choose to stay as an FO and never plan on upgrading. Those FO’s are no longer consider “Captain in training” are they?
08-27-2018, 05:56 PM
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I'll preface this by saying that I agree with most of what you've said to this point. I've always been a team unity, "last guy up the jetway" kind of guy too. Hell, I even offer to hump FA bags up and down stairs if that's involved between hotel and the aircraft. But I just don't understand this:
I might be wrong, but the way I'm reading your post it sounds like you're saying that if your report time is say 10am and the flight attendants report at 8am, you go with them at 8am? 
I gotta ask...why? The only way that *kinda* makes any sense is if you're flying with the same herd of flight attendants outbound and they gotta be there at 945am but your report is at 10am. But even then, assuming you and your FAs have the same rest requirements, it still doesn't compute for me. Wouldn't everyone's report time be the same?
I mean, as long as you get your required legal rest, I guess you're free to report whenever you choose? It just smacks as an empty (even creepy?) gesture. They are all independent, functioning adults, right? Ones that can fasten a seat belt, be driven a short distance and then easily find their way around any shopping mall or grocery store unsupervised?
I guess I just think there is a point where the "white knight" thing crosses a line into patronizing or even creepy and unwanted.
Originally Posted by captjns
Re-read my post... I wrote, that I travel to the airport with the F/As if their report was earlier than the front end. I let the F/O know as they are not obligated to report earlier than scheduled.
I gotta ask...why? The only way that *kinda* makes any sense is if you're flying with the same herd of flight attendants outbound and they gotta be there at 945am but your report is at 10am. But even then, assuming you and your FAs have the same rest requirements, it still doesn't compute for me. Wouldn't everyone's report time be the same?
I mean, as long as you get your required legal rest, I guess you're free to report whenever you choose? It just smacks as an empty (even creepy?) gesture. They are all independent, functioning adults, right? Ones that can fasten a seat belt, be driven a short distance and then easily find their way around any shopping mall or grocery store unsupervised?
I guess I just think there is a point where the "white knight" thing crosses a line into patronizing or even creepy and unwanted.
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