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08-25-2018 | 11:39 PM
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Well, if the cabin and cockpit crew are BOTH staying at the same hotel, then the normal, polite thing to do is go together - like a crew. The impression you give if you leave them is, “Screw you. I can’t and won’t wait. You’re on your own.”, which certainly does NOT subscribe to the “we’re in this together” CREW mentality, and says everything about your leadership ability - and not in a good way.
In 27 years in the airline business, in the above situation, I’ve NEVER ditched a cabin crew heading to the same hotel because I couldn’t wait the extra 7-10 minutes.
I’ll also say this: if a captain ever suggested this, I’d politely tell him that I’m waiting, and I’d wave him goodby as he left to take the van to the hotel, alone.
In 27 years in the airline business, in the above situation, I’ve NEVER ditched a cabin crew heading to the same hotel because I couldn’t wait the extra 7-10 minutes.
I’ll also say this: if a captain ever suggested this, I’d politely tell him that I’m waiting, and I’d wave him goodby as he left to take the van to the hotel, alone.
Last edited by 450knotOffice; 08-25-2018 at 11:50 PM.
08-26-2018 | 12:24 AM
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From: Whiskey Papa
Well, if the cabin and cockpit crew are BOTH staying at the same hotel, then the normal, polite thing to do is go together - like a crew. The impression you give if you leave them is, “Screw you. I can’t and won’t wait. You’re on your own.”, which certainly does NOT subscribe to the “we’re in this together” CREW mentality, and says everything about your leadership ability - and not in a good way.
In 27 years in the airline business, in the above situation, I’ve NEVER ditched a cabin crew heading to the same hotel because I couldn’t wait the extra 7-10 minutes.
I’ll also say this: if a captain ever suggested this, I’d politely tell him that I’m waiting, and I’d wave him goodby as he left to take the van to the hotel, alone.
In 27 years in the airline business, in the above situation, I’ve NEVER ditched a cabin crew heading to the same hotel because I couldn’t wait the extra 7-10 minutes.
I’ll also say this: if a captain ever suggested this, I’d politely tell him that I’m waiting, and I’d wave him goodby as he left to take the van to the hotel, alone.
THIS!!!
The only excuses for ditching the crew are staying at a different hotel, being on short rest or if you take your own transportation to the hotel.
08-26-2018 | 05:11 AM
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
Back on topic about leaving the f/A's after we land. We are all adults here that can take care of ourselves. There is no reason for the front end crew to hang around while we wait for the entire plane to deplane of we're going to hotel that has a scheduled van run.
I can understand if the van is for hire.
I can understand if the van is for hire.
I’m the last one off the jet, through immigration (especially through immigration), into the hotel van, and to check into the hotel... well you can figure it out. F/As at carriers have different report times. That said, I’m on that van with the F/A’s to ensure the aircraft, tech log to mitigate potential delays.
My crew’s safety and security is paramount to me. That’s a part of leadership, courtesy, consideration, team concept and moreover responsibility.
Who knows, Floobs ....if and when you get your fourth stripe you can look back on your post and say to yourself “Was that me?!?”
Last edited by captjns; 08-26-2018 at 05:38 AM.
08-26-2018 | 06:36 AM
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Take the van that gets you to the plane by your report time. When getting to an overnight: if you’re not staying at the same hotel as the F/As then leave, if you are, then wait for them and don’t be a jerk and steal the hotel van.
Why is this so hard?
Why is this so hard?
08-26-2018 | 08:18 AM
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Simple leadership shows that you never ask anyone to do something you wouldn’t do.
If you can honestly say you wouldn’t expect the FAs to wait for you then leave.
I would expect them to wait for me so of course I would wait for them.
Don’t make life complicated.
If you can honestly say you wouldn’t expect the FAs to wait for you then leave.
I would expect them to wait for me so of course I would wait for them.
Don’t make life complicated.
08-26-2018 | 08:52 AM
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But but what about the tech log!?!
08-26-2018 | 08:53 AM
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
You “Generation X”, Generation “Y”, the “Millennials” and now we embrace the “ME GENERATION”.
Last edited by captjns; 08-26-2018 at 09:13 AM.
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