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Mover 09-06-2018 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Czervik (Post 2669557)
“I’m going to Colombia.....in Cali.”

Stopped watching after that.

You're not suggesting I think Colombia is a city in Cali, are you? LOL. C'mon man.

Sure it was awkwardly worded as a stream of thoughts, but there was a pause (as you pointed out) meaning the overnight was in Cali (CLO).

I later found out I did mispronounce Guayaquil though. A lot of people don't realize the G is silent. Sorry.

Mover 09-06-2018 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 450knotOffice (Post 2669469)
Mover, I enjoyed your vid. Nicely done.

I wish I were as young as you, lol!

Thanks! I never expected it to go anywhere, to be honest. I started the vlog for my writing (side gig) and the small following I have there. They asked for the comparison of the airline life, and I made a video. It was intended to be a comparison explaining the transition as a follow up to the previous video.

That video had less than 500 views until a few weeks ago and I had ~125 subscribers.

At some point YouTube took interest in the video I made a few weeks before about how I became a fighter pilot in the first place and all of the other videos took off with it (relatively speaking). I still don't really understand how their algorithms work.

Definitely not trying to be a tool. Sorry if it came off that way.

rickair7777 09-06-2018 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mover (Post 2669618)
Thanks! I never expected it to go anywhere, to be honest. I started the vlog for my writing (side gig) and the small following I have there. They asked for the comparison of the airline life, and I made a video. It was intended to be a comparison explaining the transition as a follow up to the previous video.

That video had less than 500 views until a few weeks ago and I had ~125 subscribers.

At some point YouTube took interest in the video I made a few weeks before about how I became a fighter pilot in the first place and all of the other videos took off with it (relatively speaking). I still don't really understand how their algorithms work.

Definitely not trying to be a tool. Sorry if it came off that way.

Not toolish IMO. But it is similar in format to some recent pilot vlogs which have been pretty dooshy, so maybe somebody jumped to conclusions. Some folks are sensitive about it I guess.

deadseal 09-06-2018 09:15 PM

Meh...seems like a “look at me” Instagram, social media ***** to me....sorry.
I know that if he was currently in a fighter squadron and doin this, every roll call would have something funny to say/do with him

Probably start with “so tell us about yourself”
And end with everyone drunk and laughing at the video playing above the bar.


I think it’s pretty awesome that he is a writer...I’ll give him that

Qotsaautopilot 09-07-2018 11:00 AM

It’s easy to critique people from the other side of a keyboard. Also, while I do harbor a general distaste for the narsacistic nature of social media and YouTube “influencers”, I don’t think the video poster had that intention. I think it’s an honest video to help mil pilots looking at crossing over, while also serving as a marketing platform for his books.

Problem is it’s not titled that way so anyone can see it. The other issue is that he tells the general public that being airline pilot is easy. In the 20min video that must have been said at least 10 times. Basically he gets little satisfaction from the job and does it for the money (to be clear, we all do it for the money). That feeds the stereotype that we and our unions are trying to fight which is we are over paid bus drivers. In a time when we are fighting constant threats to discredit our importance, level of responsibility, erode our pay and benefits, and legislation to look into single pilot operations, this video doesn’t help our cause.

According to the video a fighter pilot does a much harder job for a whole lot less money. So that begs the question, why are we paying airline pilots this much? Different angle but the same damage as the Instagram and you tube stars of Ryan Air and regional airlines that glamorize the job while working for next to nothing.

Hossharris 09-07-2018 03:55 PM

Or rather, why are we paying fighter pilots so little?

Qotsaautopilot 09-07-2018 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossharris (Post 2670396)
Or rather, why are we paying fighter pilots so little?

I’d agree with that too.

Non-union and enough of a cool factor to draw more than enough people in just for the type of work

rickair7777 09-07-2018 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hossharris (Post 2670396)
Or rather, why are we paying fighter pilots so little?

They get paid the same as any other service member, with some hazard pay (similar to other specialties), and retention pay (specific to airframe, as-needed to manage the force structure).

It's probably not practical for the government to give them legacy airline pay, instead they should try to manage the career path so as to be something people want to do. But actually the government really only needs to keep them for the 10-15 years between ADSC and retirement eligibility. After 20+ years, they only need a relatively small handful of colonels, and even those for only a few more years. Very few officers can get anywhere near age 60, and you'd need a lot of stars on shoulder to even have a chance.

It's probably a losing battle to retain enough folks in this airline hiring climate. Instead, they need to make sure they attract them to the reserves, so if they ever really need them, they're available and current. IMO they might need to move some planes to the guard/reserve, since that's where all their pilots are headed anyway.

Castle Bravo 09-07-2018 05:27 PM

Wow, where to start...
It ain't the pay; it's the loss of swagger. And time away from home.

The AF has 12,300 pilots; DL, UA and AA each exceed that. The USAF (or Navy/USMC) could easily pay Legacy pay rates by purchasing one less F-35/B-21/pick-a-plane. But that won't solve the institutional problems that are at the core of the pilot shortage. :(

The US Post Office LOSES more money per year than the USAF annual budget for the entire nuclear force...money's not the issue.

rickair7777 09-07-2018 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Castle Bravo (Post 2670432)
Wow, where to start...
It ain't the pay; it's the loss of swagger. And time away from home.

The AF has 12,300 pilots; DL, UA and AA each exceed that. The USAF (or Navy/USMC) could easily pay Legacy pay rates by purchasing one less F-35/B-21/pick-a-plane. But that won't solve the institutional problems that are at the core of the pilot shortage. :(

The US Post Office LOSES more money per year than the USAF annual budget for the entire nuclear force...money's not the issue.

By "not practical" I didn't mean fiscally. It would be a political issue with the rest of the military (and the public). Targeted retention bonuses get after that somewhat, and justified by empirical retention data.

Like I said, plan B had better be keep them in the reserves and even that's not going so great.


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