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Originally Posted by captjns
(Post 2779695)
Report back to this forum, after you’ve gained some experience, and report your views on this matter.
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We’re suppose to meet in ops before a flight? Is every flight OE?
Here I am just hoping the other pilot shows up at least 15 minutes before we push. |
Why do you need permission from anyone to not meet in ops? Just go to the airplane. Who cares what the other guy thinks of it?
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Originally Posted by captjns
(Post 2779695)
What do you do during a turn:eek:. shut the jet down, find a office with a fax... review the paperwork?
Technology is light years beyond from the ‘70s. Flight plan and aircraft status is sent via email. We can access the same on the iPad too. It takes the same time be it in the car, operations, flight deck to decide on fuel, route modification due weather, etc. Is it really necessary to waste the time walking 5 miles to Dispatch then walking another 10 miles to the jet? The trusty mobile phone can put me in contact with Dispatch should the need arise. After all M5000, they have more important tasks at hand rather than taking to you when they don’t need to. Report back to this forum, after you’ve gained some experience, and report your views on this matter. Domestic? I'll see you at the gate. But I show up in the planning area at report time for an international flight because that's what we are supposed to do. Half the time, the other guys have already been there for an hour and have already done everything (not that theres much to do anymore). All that's left is to figure out who's doing what, talk about any special/significant issues and sign the release. The last remaining advantage to the planning room vs meeting at the gate (besides tradition) was a large flat place to fill out the orientation chart. But now that's on the tablet too. |
Is this a military crossover? Not a slam btw.
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Obviously M5000's comment was based on a situation where it's normal to meet in ops. (Whether it's normal for that airline, or because it's international, or whatever.) In that case, one guy leaving the other sitting on his thumb, in the dark, does not follow the golden rule.
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Not sure where M5000 works but based on his comments I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s UAL. At UAL it is written in the FOM that the first flight of the pairing the crew SHOULD meet in ops. This was a big cultural difference between the 2 legacy carriers. At one they always met at the airplane, and at the other always in ops (Again for the first flight of the pairing only). It still causes debate in which way is better. I came after the merger and have no dog in the fight but it is written in the FOM so I go to ops. It used to be a little annoying when you would be sitting there waiting and then find out the guy just went to the airplane and it sounds like that’s what M5000 is getting at. After a little while you get a feel for which guys will show up in ops based on the domicile.
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Originally Posted by freezingflyboy
(Post 2779773)
.......was a large flat place to fill out the orientation chart. But now that's on the tablet too.
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Originally Posted by Adlerdriver
(Post 2779873)
I'm stuck on "orientation chart". :D Never heard of it.
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