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Old 04-22-2012, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1 View Post
Shaws or Mammoth Maat?

Shaws of course!
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead View Post
Not a hard, fast rule, but in my experience any captain who includes in his initial briefing that,
"I'm a real laid back kind of guy"
Has typically been anything but that.

If you truly are that laid back, then you probably wouldn't have to advertise it.
Same as the captain that has to say "I do things by the book"- I usually end up wondering which book they actually do things by.

BTW- long-sleeve wearer here. Sorry.
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Dashdog View Post
Same as the captain that has to say "I do things by the book"- I usually end up wondering which book they actually do things by.

BTW- long-sleeve wearer here. Sorry.
On the whole Briefing idea...shouldn't we all be able to say...Just do what they taught you in training...or not even that, because, what else would you do?

I always fly with the mindset that the guy sitting next to me went through the same upgrade training I did (because...he DID) and he knows what the procedures are, and how to read a checklist, so, why do I have to tell him how to do his job? Until he proves otherwise, I'm going to assume he knows what he's doing. Yet I have to brief "Aborts and abnormals" every time. WHY??


Same with the F/A's, but I am required to tell them how and when to evacuate, and what the signals are, how to open the cockpit door, etc. while most of the F/A's I fly with have been doing their job for over 35 years.

How about a briefing that goes like this:

"Let's have fun, and not end up on CNN! Questions?"

Because if you don't know your job by now, my briefing you isn't going to help. And if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong!
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dashdog View Post
Same as the captain that has to say "I do things by the book"- I usually end up wondering which book they actually do things by.

BTW- long-sleeve wearer here. Sorry.
I used to brief as a captain,
"Figured I'd just let you know that I'm a real uptight of guy, if I'm staring at you that means your probably doing something wrong, and if I'm not staring at you then that means you are still doing something wrong. Save the books and the CRM for the recurrent, and don't ask me anything. Any questions?"


Seriously though, I always hate hearing the by the book thing. It makes the assumption that everyone else, including you, does most things non standard.

Oh, and don't agree with the whole long sleeves thing.
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by samballs View Post
Comair had a guy with the plates that read "RJ pilot"
Oh, there are TONS of RJ license plate variants! I would like to meet the FA whose license plate is ORD CZY!!
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Old 04-22-2012, 07:50 AM
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Oh, there are TONS of RJ license plate variants! I would like to meet the FA whose license plate is ORD CZY!!
..or how about B6cr8zy.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:10 AM
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How about a pilot who decides to take off everything below his tie in the bathroom stall and then while you are washing your hands, comes out of the stall and blocks your exit while he grabs some paper towels to wipe his man package. Then he starts talking to you as if he isn't walking around with his b@lls hanging out.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine View Post
How about a pilot who decides to take off everything below his tie in the bathroom stall and then while you are washing your hands, comes out of the stall and blocks your exit while he grabs some paper towels to wipe his man package. Then he starts talking to you as if he isn't walking around with his b@lls hanging out.
What in the hell?
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid View Post
What in the hell?
I wanted to ask him, but past experiences have taught me not to talk to a naked man in the bathroom.
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Old 04-22-2012, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post

I always fly with the mindset that the guy sitting next to me went through the same upgrade training I did (because...he DID) and he knows what the procedures are, and how to read a checklist, so, why do I have to tell him how to do his job? Until he proves otherwise, I'm going to assume he knows what he's doing. Yet I have to brief "Aborts and abnormals" every time. WHY??

How about a briefing that goes like this:

"Let's have fun, and not end up on CNN! Questions?"

Because if you don't know your job by now, my briefing you isn't going to help. And if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong!
Good point and I used to think the same until I took a safety seminar where the subject came up. It has to do with the psyschology of Memory and remembering under stress. If you brief the abort / emergency return procedure shortly before takeoff it brings those steps to the surface of your memory and consequently your response to an actual takeoff emergency will be quicker and more accurate than if you had not briefed. No space for the full discussion here but the gentleman made a believer of me that day.

I firmly agree on the mindset of let's have fun and not end up on CNN!
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