Tool of the day
04-22-2012, 09:30 AM
#401
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: Decoupled
Posts: 922
Originally Posted by scambo1
That just makes you a skin-cancer-fearing-tool.
I must be a tool because:
I always wear my hat because my head gets cold.
I wear long sleeves because I fear skin cancer.
I give F/O's the choice of I either buy the beer, or I do walk-arounds, but not both.
Maybe it's getting close to time to retire, I have walked down the concourse with my fly open. Thank God, so far, it's been when I wearing my uniform jacket. Maybe I should start wearing it year around.
This is why I'm a tool.
04-22-2012, 09:34 AM
#402
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2010
Posts: 2,278
Originally Posted by orvil
Okay, Scambo1, I'll engage.
I must be a tool because:
I always wear my hat because my head gets cold.
I wear long sleeves because I fear skin cancer.
I give F/O's the choice of I either buy the beer, or I do walk-arounds, but not both.
Maybe it's getting close to time to retire, I have walked down the concourse with my fly open. Thank God, so far, it's been when I wearing my uniform jacket. Maybe I should start wearing it year around.
This is why I'm a tool.
I must be a tool because:
I always wear my hat because my head gets cold.
I wear long sleeves because I fear skin cancer.
I give F/O's the choice of I either buy the beer, or I do walk-arounds, but not both.
Maybe it's getting close to time to retire, I have walked down the concourse with my fly open. Thank God, so far, it's been when I wearing my uniform jacket. Maybe I should start wearing it year around.
This is why I'm a tool.
04-22-2012, 09:47 AM
#403
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 11,989
Originally Posted by Timbo
On the whole Briefing idea...shouldn't we all be able to say...Just do what they taught you in training...or not even that, because, what else would you do?
I always fly with the mindset that the guy sitting next to me went through the same upgrade training I did (because...he DID) and he knows what the procedures are, and how to read a checklist, so, why do I have to tell him how to do his job? Until he proves otherwise, I'm going to assume he knows what he's doing. Yet I have to brief "Aborts and abnormals" every time. WHY??
...
Because if you don't know your job by now, my briefing you isn't going to help. And if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong!
I always fly with the mindset that the guy sitting next to me went through the same upgrade training I did (because...he DID) and he knows what the procedures are, and how to read a checklist, so, why do I have to tell him how to do his job? Until he proves otherwise, I'm going to assume he knows what he's doing. Yet I have to brief "Aborts and abnormals" every time. WHY??
...
Because if you don't know your job by now, my briefing you isn't going to help. And if you're not having fun, you're doing it wrong!
The way I look at it, the airline bought the airplane and the gas. If they want me to recite the Gettysburg Address before each departure, I will.
While it is my goal to never have one of my CVR tapes transcribed, you start out with money in the bank if all the checklists and procedures were done well (and that part is easy).
However I agree with your point and fly my own airplane the way I want to (The work done by lawyers stays in the pouch).
04-22-2012, 11:28 AM
#406
Line Holder
Joined APC: May 2011
Position: FO
Posts: 57
Originally Posted by buzzpat
Guard Nazi's are tools.
It's amazing to me how quick some of these Guard tools/police respond when someone accidentally transmits on guard. It's like they are waiting, ready to pounce on the first guy that transmits by mistake.
Unless someone is having a conversation on guard, let them be, they will figure it out. It's like they HAVE to point out someone's mistake.
COMPLETE TOOLS!
04-22-2012, 11:31 AM
#408
Runs with scissors
Joined APC: Dec 2009
Position: Going to hell in a bucket, but enjoying the ride .
Posts: 7,722
Originally Posted by Merlyn
Good point and I used to think the same until I took a safety seminar where the subject came up. It has to do with the psyschology of Memory and remembering under stress. If you brief the abort / emergency return procedure shortly before takeoff it brings those steps to the surface of your memory and consequently your response to an actual takeoff emergency will be quicker and more accurate than if you had not briefed. No space for the full discussion here but the gentleman made a believer of me that day.
I firmly agree on the mindset of let's have fun and not end up on CNN!
I firmly agree on the mindset of let's have fun and not end up on CNN!
I figured that was probably the reason they have us doing it, well, that and as a CYA measure, should the FAA every have cause to listen to the tape!
When I started in this career there was no 'briefing' of anything, no CRM, no headsets, and if you were really cool, (and a 10 year F/E) you recited the checklist from memory, so there have been lots of safety improvements over the past 30 years no doubt.
Still, I feel just a little awkward briefing women old enough to be my Mom, on how the "Seatbelt Light" will be used...and I KNOW they are not listening to anything I say, except, "What's the Flying Time??" and still, half of them ask me again as soon as we get on the jet...
04-22-2012, 11:40 AM
#410
Moderator
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: B757/767
Posts: 13,088
Originally Posted by TheTriColor
Beat me to it! I thought I was going to be the first one to bring it up
It's amazing to me how quick some of these Guard tools/police respond when someone accidentally transmits on guard. It's like they are waiting, ready to pounce on the first guy that transmits by mistake.
Unless someone is having a conversation on guard, let them be, they will figure it out. It's like they HAVE to point out someone's mistake.
COMPLETE TOOLS!
It's amazing to me how quick some of these Guard tools/police respond when someone accidentally transmits on guard. It's like they are waiting, ready to pounce on the first guy that transmits by mistake.
Unless someone is having a conversation on guard, let them be, they will figure it out. It's like they HAVE to point out someone's mistake.
COMPLETE TOOLS!
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