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Justdoinmyjob 05-21-2015 02:56 PM


Originally Posted by SayAlt (Post 1885773)
Could be anyone.

I was reliably told, by a person of impeccable character, about the time he flew Bill Clinton on his Gulfstream.

No one used the blue room on their flight expect ol' Bill. When they went to prep for the next turn, they discovered pee all over the lav, even around the sink. It had been smooth as glass the entire ride. Could only have been intentional. Just because he could.

Was this before or after he was POTUS? There just can't be that much satisfaction in peeing all over an airplane lav after defecating all over an entire nation.

SayAlt 05-21-2015 02:58 PM

After.

I guess he got used to getting away with anything he wanted to. And from the looks of things, that hasn't changed much.

EMBFlyer 05-21-2015 03:20 PM

The jackass that came on the plane in a European city yesterday puking his guts out and the paramedics that cleared him to fly (after we called them). He sat right across from our rest seats. He was still puking well into the flight. Sometime during my rest break, he decides he's done using the bag and just pukes on the floors (and apparently all over the Lead FA's shoes). I wake up from a deep sleep to see the sawdust material getting sprinkled. I tried to roll over and continue with my nap, but the smell got too pungent. Needless to say, my rest break was cut short and I retreated to the cockpit before I, myself, got sick.

Tom a Hawk 05-21-2015 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1885777)
Was this before or after he was POTUS? There just can't be that much satisfaction in peeing all over an airplane lav after defecating all over an entire nation.

Nice work. I nearly sprayed my beverage, but this swa fa pours too light to waste it.

ysslah 05-21-2015 05:42 PM


Originally Posted by ATLTRACON (Post 1884454)
They guy/gal who decides to slow their aircraft without saying anything to ATC. This might be fine in Fargo (nothing against Fargo, loved the movie) but when 20+ aircraft are behind you, and spacing is predicated on you not slowing cause "I heard you tell the last guy short approach so I was setting up for one" or any other excuse, causes a massive chain reaction. I've seen this day in and day out lately and some of the chain reactions I've seen just this week were downright dangerous.

Just ask

So how long is the final?

aewanabe 05-21-2015 06:23 PM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1884940)
You're not serious, are you? Every airliner I've flown has had no problem with 180 to the marker and being configured and normally on speed by 1000 (we require configured by 1000 and on speed+spooled by 500) unless there is a good tailwind.

Spent a day playing dad to a couple sick kiddos, just got back to this.

I'm very serious, but I'm also sure you don't and haven't flown an E190. Note I said 180 to 5, not the marker; most markers are 6-7 miles out which gives me 900-1200 feet to get configured and meet my stabilized approach criteria, which require both configuration and VAPP plus 10 by 1000 feet. 5 miles gives me 2 miles/600 feet to accomplish that, which just isn't going to happen in an E190 from 180 to 130-140 or so. There's a few jet-specific reasons for this versus what's probably normal on a Boeing. I agree that 180 to 5 in a 320 usually works fine, for example...

So what I do is say "unable", and tell the controller what I can do. 160-170 works great depending on tail/headwinds, anti-ice operation etc.

cardiomd 05-21-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by teddyballgame (Post 1884418)
It's amazing how many times the proper noun "Cirrus" appears in the NTSB Reporter, isn't it?

Yes indeed. High performance airfoil and a very weird control feel to any of you that have ever flown one. I am not surprised by the outcome. :(

Paul Bertorelli says it nicely:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nm_hoHhbFo

[Sarcasm]: I'm sure an AOA sensor would have saved the day! :rolleyes: [/SARCASM]
Actually I think the Avidyne has a AOA display.



Originally Posted by USMCFDX (Post 1884430)
Would love to see you back that up with some facts. Not even close to being a true statement Doc.

Do a bit of reading and research if you have not already. It is absolutely true, marketed in very similar manner to relatively inexperienced pilots with similar results. I considered buying one - Cirruses are very affordable for some professional demographics, almost analogous to the Bonanzas back in the day. Fatal accident rate is significantly higher than Cessna or lower wing-loading birds, and has a very high loss of control + stall/spin accident rate.

Beechcraft+Ad+print+photo+Bonanza+1970.jpg (image)

Compare to the targeted Cirrus ads of today.
http://oldmagazineads.blogspot.com/2...o-bonanza.html

ATLTRACON 05-21-2015 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by ysslah (Post 1885910)
So how long is the final?


When I say short approach, you can expect inside of 10.

cardiomd 05-21-2015 06:40 PM


Originally Posted by prex8390 (Post 1884722)
LOL in FAR theyll have you at 2600 10 miles out, better make it nice and slow then or you will wake the cattle. The approach guys there are a interesting bunch with their logic, I can think of several other stories involving them that I havent seen anywhere else. They'll make a Cessna do a short approach for traffic not even at the outer marker yet.

That's probably not too bad an idea given how long some aviators make their traffic patterns... I'll bet they are more concerned with the Cessna lingering on the runway and deciding to taxi 4000 feet to his preferred exit than the actual spacing.

I've had many go-arounds because Mr. Student Pilot or Captain Cessna gets pokey on the rollout, annoying at a charlie or delta because I often could easily make it, almost could think of it as a LAHSO if a light plane, but when tower calls go around, I go around...

DENpilot 05-21-2015 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by Justdoinmyjob (Post 1885777)
Was this before or after he was POTUS? There just can't be that much satisfaction in peeing all over an airplane lav after defecating all over an entire nation.

Maybe we've found the identity of the "yellow pee pee monster"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NKv9MrsLXlk


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